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May 28 2022 03:45am
Quote (0perator @ May 28 2022 02:30pm)
1. Up'd Ribcracker if druid is poor
2. Last wish PB if druid can get expensive gear, because PB cannot be broken, Lw gives high crushing blow, an added offensive aura, fade and life tap



1. Eth Ribcracker has too low %ias to launch life tap with 5% life tap Dracul's grasp, more hits with high %ias, more probabilities you have for life tap
2. Grief doesn't add crushing blow, only deathly strike. Crushing blow > Deathly strike for the Uber mode



Why not ? The high ladder auras are more awesome in D2x because they make full HD characters especially where there is high light radius.



Shael'd up'd Ribcracker can work fine for the Uber mode with a Fury druid like I half previously stated above.



Last wish doesn't have added %ias, but werewolves of any sort can still be fast enough once werewolf skill has been maxed including some %ias bonus in gear. Of course, werewolf or werebear shapes are always slower than human shape.


First of all, you have not checked IAS tables. This is crucial to many melee builds including wolf. And some %ias bonus in gear doesn't work at all in LoD (an example given below).

As for Phoenix, its Firestorm interrupts your attacks, while Firestorm from Torch doesn't. (This has been fixed in D2R afaik) And this is why Paladins or Assassins don't use Phoenix in LoD, be it as a weapon or a shield.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Phoenix and use it on Sorc and Zon.

And werewolf or werebear shapes are always slower than human shape. is based on what?

Now let me take LW PB (no off weapon IAS) as an example:

Human 14 frames

lvl 2 werewolf: 11 frames (which doesn't change with either lvl 20 werewolf or 100 off weapon ias) (and 11 frames attack is too slow to my taste)

Hope what I wrote helps you understand some aspects of this great game :)
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May 28 2022 05:09am
Quote (0perator @ May 28 2022 01:30am)
1. Up'd Ribcracker if druid is poor
2. Last wish PB if druid can get expensive gear, because PB cannot be broken, Lw gives high crushing blow, an added offensive aura, fade and life tap



1. Eth Ribcracker has too low %ias to launch life tap with 5% life tap Dracul's grasp, more hits with high %ias, more probabilities you have for life tap
2. Grief doesn't add crushing blow, only deathly strike. Crushing blow > Deathly strike for the Uber mode



Why not ? The high ladder auras are more awesome in D2x because they make full HD characters especially where there is high light radius.



Shael'd up'd Ribcracker can work fine for the Uber mode with a Fury druid like I half previously stated above.



Last wish doesn't have added %ias, but werewolves of any sort can still be fast enough once werewolf skill has been maxed including some %ias bonus in gear. Of course, werewolf or werebear shapes are always slower than human shape.


You're going to shit on eth ribcracker in the same breath you're suggesting last wish? Which has 0 ias?

I'd recommend you stop giving out shit advice for things you don't know about. For starters, shapeshifter can benefit from ias off weapon now. Which means last wish is actually viable but so are things like an eth ribcracker. Easy af to hit frames with highlords. Which you do seem to know about but then completely ignore when you're making your argument?

Secondly, you can get 50% from goblin toes and g face. More than enough for ubers, assuming your fury druid has good AR. That's the downfall of fury in ubers.

Thirdly, go try doing ubers on a smiter without a grief with 100% crushing blow. You'll drain their health very quickly and then it will take forever to finish them off. You need physical damage to finish the last mile.

This post was edited by Zionite on May 28 2022 05:11am
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For starters, shapeshifter can benefit from ias off weapon now. Which means last wish is actually viable but so are things like an eth ribcracker. Easy af to hit frames with highlords.


Wow, that's one of those I am most jealous about D2R!

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Thirdly, go try doing ubers on a smiter without a grief with 100% crushing blow. You'll drain their health very quickly and then it will take forever to finish them off. You need physical damage to finish the last mile.


True.

My talon assa uses Kingslayer and she keeps kicking for a loooooong time :)

My previous Uber killer Pally used Stormlash with conviction aura, he killed way faster, but I guess Grief is faster vs one big monster. Still, I'd use Stormlash in the future :)
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May 28 2022 06:17am
So I’ll be honest, I don’t fully understand frames and the IAS calculators.

Maybe someone can do the calc for me or teach me what to look for:

Option 1: eth UP rib (50ias), my jalals (15 ias)

Option 2: last wish PB ( 0 ias), Jalal (15), craft/rare 20 ias gloves

I want to leave highlords out ATM because I like the res and AR from metal grid.
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May 28 2022 06:26am
Quote (germantank22 @ May 28 2022 09:17pm)
So I’ll be honest, I don’t fully understand frames and the IAS calculators.

Maybe someone can do the calc for me or teach me what to look for:

Option 1: eth UP rib (50ias), my jalals (15 ias)

Option 2: last wish PB ( 0 ias), Jalal (15), craft/rare 20 ias gloves

I want to leave highlords out ATM because I like the res and AR from metal grid.


LoD or D2R, that's the question.
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May 28 2022 06:30am
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LoD or D2R, that's the question.



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So I’ll be honest, I don’t fully understand frames and the IAS calculators.

Maybe someone can do the calc for me or teach me what to look for:

Option 1: eth UP rib (50ias), my jalals (15 ias)

Option 2: last wish PB ( 0 ias), Jalal (15), craft/rare 20 ias gloves

I want to leave highlords out ATM because I like the res and AR from metal grid.


https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/24/

Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 28 2022 08:09am)
Wow, that's one of those I am most jealous about D2R!



True.

My talon assa uses Kingslayer and she keeps kicking for a loooooong time :)

My previous Uber killer Pally used Stormlash with conviction aura, he killed way faster, but I guess Grief is faster vs one big monster. Still, I'd use Stormlash in the future :)


Huge fan of stormlash. My tesladin on nonladder uses one. G toes+dual dream+stormlash+conviction murders ubers. Static+cb together is broken
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May 28 2022 06:47am
Quote (Zionite @ May 28 2022 08:30am)
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/24/


So when using this calculator, I assume the IAS column means total IAS on character? On weapon IAS + Off Weapon IAS?


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May 28 2022 06:48am
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Yessir that's correct
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May 28 2022 06:59am
Quote (Zionite @ May 28 2022 08:48am)
Yessir that's correct


So based off of this calculator:

Using LW Phase blade:

4% IAS gets me 5+(4)+7 (easily achieved)
37% IAS gets me 5 +(4)+6 (I could get with 15 IAS jalal, highlords, and IAS gloves)

Using Stalagmite gets me (now does the eth change this? I'm not sure how to do t his with the calc)

26% IAS gets me 5+(4)+7 (easily achieved)
68% Ias gets me 5 +(4) +6 (ribby + ias jalal + highlords)

So how important is that last last number (7 vs 6)

with LW I get greater crushing blow, better life tap. Downside would be the dex+strength requirements may affect amount of vit?
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