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Jan 8 2022 11:44am
Quote (Kigamie @ 8 Jan 2022 11:06)
yeah never thought about it like that but I also dislike the PBs style I might also go BA instead. how big is the dmg loss?


Not big enough for me to care :)
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Jan 8 2022 12:00pm
Needs more mf
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Jan 9 2022 01:03am
300 runs is too low. RNG is RNG, sometimes you get really unlucky, but sometimes you’ll get 2 Sura, 2 Bers, Lo, CoA, dwebs and steel cara plus gbane in two days.

The more runs, the more accurate the drop chance but it’s always a balance between kill speed and decent mf.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Jan 9 2022 01:04am
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UNIQUE DROP % IS ROLLED IN A SET ORDER IN WERE A UNIQUE CHECK IS DONE AS THE 1ST FLAG THEREFOR EVERYTHNOIG AFTER CAN BE IS BE OR IS BE. THEREFOR IF ITS GONNABE A UNIQUE OP IS CORRECT. SIT.
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Jan 9 2022 09:45am
Whatever you build will be the wrong build. Your comrades will find better and more items than you. Grass is always greener on their side.

I myself have a pitzerker doing pit, trav, chaos, eldshenk, pindle.

I find shit.

I go hork some public chaos and guess what? Jah, ohm, Lo, 520, 32020, 5320, etc.

Rng is rng
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Jan 9 2022 05:48pm
pitzerker isn't the best mfer in the game, it's the best tc87 mfer in the game.

the way I think about mf% is this - past 300% ish, diminishing returns for uniques hit hard. for magic items, there's no diminishing returns. I'd rather get more non magical bases from ilvl84/85, which can sell for a lot of fg esp if eth/sup. so I keep mf around 250-300 because I want to maximize total value, rather than maximize unique drop chance by another 5%
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Quote (NowhereSpecial @ Jan 6 2022 11:40am)
I made a Pitzerker for the first time recently. He's Level 87 almost 88. 528 MF caster swap // 648 mf kill swap. I've done around 300 pit runs so far and so far found nothing worth keeping. Constant blues and crappy rares. Seems I'm actually just a full rejuv farmer at this point.

Does anyone else have this experience? Pitzerker is supposed to be the "most efficient mfer" in the game. I've had much better luck mfing Andy and Meph with a sorc. Am I just on a cold streak at this point?


Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 6 2022 11:42am)
One, you are on a cold streak

Two, you have way to much MF


Quote (Soppamies @ Jan 6 2022 12:29pm)
Half your MF% at least…

Something like 200-250% is kinda max what is needed.


Quote (eric1014153 @ Jan 6 2022 01:12pm)
Doesn't the higher item rarity level take precedence over the lower ones? Like, if the item drop algorithm rolls a Unique and Magic at the same time, it will choose always the Unique before Magic to drop? That's my understanding as to why you drop your MF low when you want plain bases, since socketed and plain items are under Magic items.

This is how I always understood MF to be, and that you don't go high more for the lack of kill speed as opposed to Magics replacing Unique and Rare drops.


PITZERKER not even once.

It all started about 5 seasons ago. Me and my boy P-nutz was searching for a cow rune this forum noob was talking about on some basket weaving forum. Apparently you can socket it into your helm and it kills fast with some Mf or something. Anyway, I was naturally on my top geared spear zon (heh those tittays tho amirite?) and p-nuts was drifting around on his bunk ass psn dagger necrod. We come across some loose boulders out in the highlands and a pack of wild quilliams. They’re all poking me n shit n it hurts. I’m chugging down potions when the next thing I know a freaking PITZERKER comes leaping out of nowhere from offscreen. I start spasming uncontrollably because he’s gonna jack my cow rune spot you know? I cast a mighty decoy to distract him and immediately freeze so he doesn’t know who is who (ha! GOTTTEMM!) then stupid p-nots comes waddling down the path like he just got back from jerry sandusky’s coaches office. He takes on look at this PITZERKER and freaks the fuk out no lie. He starts wildly swinging his dagger but it’s too little (giggity). Meanwhile these quilliams are fuking up my shit n the psn is about to kill me but I can’t move because I can’t give away my position. Next thing I know this PITZERKER starts swinging his mighty shafted sword down all these quilli rats sphincters and they die right then and there like wtf. He goes up to their fresh corpses and starts yelling at the dead and these friggin gg items start popping out of their dismembered bodies like a Walmart truck turning over on the freeway. My stupid azz decoy deflated and I’m stuck facing this PITZERKER 1v1 with my pants down around my ankles. P-nuts starts wildly spamming some curse to make him oogfabooga away and the PITZERKER JUST STARED AT US. Next thing I know I blacked out. When I came back too all the loot was gone and my body was splattered in the dirt.

never again will I PITZERKER it scared my pants off literally
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Jan 9 2022 07:16pm
Quote (Tarisus @ Jan 8 2022 11:03pm)
300 runs is too low. RNG is RNG, sometimes you get really unlucky, but sometimes you’ll get 2 Sura, 2 Bers, Lo, CoA, dwebs and steel cara plus gbane in two days.

The more runs, the more accurate the drop chance but it’s always a balance between kill speed and decent mf.


I'll keep running but I've been hitting trav at this point with somewhat better luck. Another thing that bugs me about the pitzerker/pit area is you're only killing uniques for the most part. On my sorc I found most of my HRS from white mobs believe it or not (Ancient Tunnels, Cows, Chaos). Would there be something to gain by smashing white mobs in the pit as well? or would it just lower efficiency and defeat the purpose?
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Jan 9 2022 08:32pm
if your actually mfing on a barb your doing it wrong or you joined in 2021
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Jan 9 2022 09:15pm
Quote (NowhereSpecial @ Jan 10 2022 09:16am)
I'll keep running but I've been hitting trav at this point with somewhat better luck. Another thing that bugs me about the pitzerker/pit area is you're only killing uniques for the most part. On my sorc I found most of my HRS from white mobs believe it or not (Ancient Tunnels, Cows, Chaos). Would there be something to gain by smashing white mobs in the pit as well? or would it just lower efficiency and defeat the purpose?



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