If you are using the best setup, which is grief + guillames + goblin toe + 10cb gloves, you will clear Uber much faster than any LW build.

The provlem is that CB is incredibly easy to get from gear slots that do little for smite as a whole.

There is no way from helm + gloves + boots to add 400 min and max damage to your base shield damage that is then scaled by all your ED%.

Grief > LW.

This shit has been mathed to death for 18 years. And grief has always won.

You were the one who said CB is not a must for ubers, essentially stating LW would be good without the CB. The other dude most likely meant that LW is bad as a whole item, which are 2 completely different things.
Also you were the one who forgot that charges for life tap exist, i just reminded u of that.

Would be nice if you wouldn't mix things up







Isn't the fastest uber ever done by an assa with LW?
Anyway i never meant to say 100cb > 60cb in every case. I compared having cb with not having cb, because the other person basically said cb wouldn't be important at all in ubers, stating that it's all about life tap.


edit: Found a telesmiter build on youtube that works with amp damage proc and a phaseblade with 4x ber runes and 2x shael runes. UT takes less than 30sec with it.
Another build works with assa and LW and amp damage proc. UT took less than 25 sec.
I guess even without the amp damage you could get it done pretty quickly ( and safer )

This post was edited by Axel420 on Jul 7 2022 08:25pm

Yes LW works well on kicker.

But grief doesn’t work with kicker

Or grief would be better with kick than LW

But stormlash works better with kick than LW

CB is not a must but it helps. This is what I wrote. Read what I wrote again. thx.

Have you tried life tap charged wand on kicker while ubering? I won't have the time to use it

My weapons atm are Stormlash (eth) and Fleshripper (pskul) btw.

And back to the topic, Grief or Last Wish. LW is the only choice on Talonsin, if there are only two options.

P.S. dmg from Grief doesn't work with kick🦵

grief

might adds marginal damage

life tap can be acquired by easily shopped wands / draculs

fade can be prebuffed with a cheap treachery

lw never makes any sense whatsoever. even if grief wasn't in the game, there's plenty better options than lw. keep wasting your fg if you feel like it though

This post was edited by Dolphy on Jul 8 2022 12:28am

Read the title first, ok?



I just wrote Last Wish for Talonsin between the two. That's all. Hope you read, thx.

so in your hypothetical, the option is either last wish or last wish? okay?

I'll repeat, there is not a single actual scenario in this game where you would go with last wish over any of the other signficantly cheaper and more effective weapon options

I Apologize. I expected you too much.



Depends on characters and skills

last wish isn't the best weapon for a kicksin, so why would you ever consider it?

lmk