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May 31 2022 07:39am
Quote (furytoronto @ May 31 2022 03:35pm)
not on hybrid smiter, you are the noob


Ofc its bis on smiter. You can go 125fcr hammer and wear a grief if u wanna smite the boss

This post was edited by paweljonk on May 31 2022 07:39am
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May 31 2022 07:42am
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Ofc its bis on smiter. You can go 125fcr hammer and wear a grief if u wanna smite the boss


vs P8 Baal time to kill

Grief with 125 fcr hammer setting = 27 seconds
Last with 125 fcr hammer setting = 16 seconds

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May 31 2022 07:55am
Quote (furytoronto @ May 31 2022 09:59pm)
Hey, finally who understands the topic. Yea, it's just better (and obviously more expensive but not super efficient) build of hammerdin/fohdin.
People get mad for nothing I don't know why.

You pay a lot of premium for 1 small number difference in d2 and d2r and circle jerk with it.

BTW,
tough luck on shael'd Stormlash. 23.6 seconds on P8 Baal (6 frames attack rate which is maximum, with phoneix shield).
It seems like you don't need shael on it, it's already at max attack rate without. (I use Fanaticism aura and I have 1 15 ias jewel on my head.
If you don't need shael, you can slap ber into it and it reduces killing time to 19 seconds.

Kingslayer is around at 23.5 seconds. I only have Goblin toe for CB btw


Thx for the calculations!

So Stormlash is a good weapon, especially when you consider its cost vs LW :)

How about Astreon's Iron Ward and The Redeemer? I'm not sure if ED vs demons works with smite though.

This is fun! :lol:
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May 31 2022 08:10am
Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 31 2022 09:55am)
Thx for the calculations!

So Stormlash is a good weapon, especially when you consider its cost vs LW :)

How about Astreon's Iron Ward and The Redeemer? I'm not sure if ED vs demons works with smite though.

This is fun! :lol:


Yes, I think it is a really good weapon against high player count boss and probably normal mobs too, considering the static field.

Iron Ward with ber, and additional 30 ias in shield brings it down to 19 seconds.
Redeemer is whack, 45+ seconds

Seems like CB is the #1 factor leading to faster boss kill.
As long as CB is high enough, it will outperform Grief since the build can't get enough CB other than Goblin toe.

That's why I brought up with magic jeweler's sword with 4 bers,
it performs as well as last wish (~16 seconds) without curse and less than 7 seconds when curse kicks in
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May 31 2022 08:30am
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Yes, I think it is a really good weapon against high player count boss and probably normal mobs too, considering the static field.

Iron Ward with ber, and additional 30 ias in shield brings it down to 19 seconds.
Redeemer is whack, 45+ seconds

Seems like CB is the #1 factor leading to faster boss kill.
As long as CB is high enough, it will outperform Grief since the build can't get enough CB other than Goblin toe.

That's why I brought up with magic jeweler's sword with 4 bers,
it performs as well as last wish (~16 seconds) without curse and less than 7 seconds when curse kicks in


Wow, interesting!

Stormlash and Iron Ward have same CB.

Stormlash has static field and Tornado (can hit Baal?)
Iron Ward has +dmg (like Grief) and +2 Combat.

And they need exactly the same time to kill Baal.

So just like you wrote, anything other than CB does nearly nothing. I thought Static Field did massive dmg... :cry:

How rare is that kind of sword btw? Might be more expensive than LW?

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May 31 2022 08:42am
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Wow, interesting!

Stormlash and Iron Ward have same CB.

Stormlash has static field and Tornado (can hit Baal?)
Iron Ward has +dmg (like Grief) and +2 Combat.

And they need exactly the same time to kill Baal.

So just like you wrote, anything other than CB does nearly nothing. I thought Static Field did massive dmg... :cry:

How rare is that kind of sword btw? Might be more expensive than LW?


Interesting, it doesn't seem like the d2 planner is considering a static field in the calculation.
If it's not, then it might be actually faster than 19 seconds. Probably look into this a bit more since stormlash would outperform anything in terms of AOE damage.

I really don't know about the magic sword. I haven't seen it in the internet, and it's 33 times rarer than JMOD. But at the same time,
any one handed weapon with max socket >4 can spawn it, such as military pick, long sword, broad sword, crystal sword, phase blade, war axe and the list goes on.

No one usually identify those magic weapon drops anyway, would be really difficult to get. But, it can be shopped I think

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May 31 2022 09:09am
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Interesting, it doesn't seem like the d2 planner is considering a static field in the calculation.
If it's not, then it might be actually faster than 19 seconds. Probably look into this a bit more since stormlash would outperform anything in terms of AOE damage.

I really don't know about the magic sword. I haven't seen it in the internet, and it's 33 times rarer than JMOD. But at the same time,
any one handed weapon with max socket >4 can spawn it, such as military pick, long sword, broad sword, crystal sword, phase blade, war axe and the list goes on.

No one usually identify those magic weapon drops anyway, would be really difficult to get. But, it can be shopped I think


Yeah, Stormlash is my most favorite weapon by far, so wish it performed better :)


As for the weapon, is War Scepter a candidate? If so, +skill is sweet 🧁
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May 31 2022 09:48am
Quote (di3tc0ke @ May 31 2022 11:09am)
Yeah, Stormlash is my most favorite weapon by far, so wish it performed better :)


As for the weapon, is War Scepter a candidate? If so, +skill is sweet 🧁


Yes, War scepter can spawn these mods. I think it is by far the best one to shop from Arkara.
She carries at least 2, max at 6 averaging 4 scepters per visit.

I just spent 10 minutes to check whether she can spawn CtC 5% amplify damage.
I found 2 of CtC Amp and 2 of Artisan (3 sockets).

I guess shopping will be the fastest way to get this weapon. Even though it will take ~330,000 war scepters to spawn 1 XD.
It will take about 14 days to shop 24/7 to check for 330,000 scepters. haha what an odds

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May 31 2022 10:35am
I went with the Holy Bolt Zealer/Smiter. Principle armor, Hoz, Dracs, Gorefoot, Gface, and Grief. Bosses melt from the Holy bolt proc as well as any undead/demon. Obviously doesn't hit as hard as FoH or Hammer, but is fun as hell.
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May 31 2022 11:14am
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