Yeah, and PvPers then create a new ladder account to join the rest of the people looking to bank on thousands during the first week so then they can buy that GG circlet without having to spending their mom's credit card on fg like they did the previous 15 years.

Wouldn't bots also make accessing rare items easier and allow for rare items that would otherwise have almost 0 chance dropping to enter the market? Do you like spending 4k on a Ber Rune? Or are you gonna continue to deny that you rely on PvM players to actually fund your overinflated items/ego. Hmm.

If there's gonna be bots I want them to flood the market with cheap PvP items

Yes

He is saying pvp don’t need you, a single person who doesn’t bot and adds little value to the economy as a whole.

Of course pvp needs pvm

Pvp people know they need pvm

Pvm think they don’t need pvp

Pvp is dead.

The market is dead.

Hmmmmmm

Big brain.

So bots are a problem because prices decline. But then they are good because prices decline. Woah.

I mean if I'm willing to admit, I only want bots AFTER I make money when there wasn't any. But since there's always more things to buy for end game PvP chars, sometimes you need to go back to the dreaded PvM audience to get an inflow of cash. So really yes, PvM is necessary for PvPers to make money to PvM players and not the other way around. Otherwise nobody would care about bots because you could just buy everything for 300 fg, or the equivalent of 10 USD.

man im mfing with a budget tal sorc on ladder because there is literally nothing else to do lol pvm is not some kind of specialty reserved for dedicated mf;ers us pvpers can do it too
yeah bots could potentially produce godly high end items but who the fux gunna pay 50k for a sick pvp item on this game?
i would never pay 4k for a ber rune lmao not when i know they will be half the price in another week and thats not because of you pvm'ers its because of bots

The big contrast to your statement here is that PvM players don't deny their reliance on PvP in a sustaining market. PvP players, on the other hand, say PvM is dumb and say they don't need it when they do. Individual, non botting PvMers are needed because it encourages people who do bot to actually do so, as the majority of their audience is to non botting PvMers.

yeah i think we can agree pvm and pvp is symbiotic relationship this game needs both of them
and tbh pvm is ruined buy bots not because of the huge price crash but because it undermines the hours of manual mfing you cant be fucked doing
and pvp is just not existent
if they want to make this game fun again they need to fix both aspects

So then you agree that bots are good because paying 4k for a Ber Rune is stupid, yes? Or are you gonna say that it's not good like you did a few posts ago? Which is it?

If every PvPer can PvM and be OK with it, then by and large you could just go out there and farm those Ber Runes yourself instead of letting the PvMers/Bots do the work for you?

And see I knew you could figure it out.

er thats exactly what most people who dont have 4k for a ber rune will do.. find their own runes lol
i never said bots were a good thing obviously detrimental to the market


This post was edited by B00MAN on May 17 2022 06:57pm