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Feb 20 2022 05:20am
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 20 2022 10:16pm)
I helpfully explained above, that being able to always namelock stomp requires a high skill cap, as do such things as tele shockwave or foh tele smite/hammer. but again, yes for the PvM aspect of the game, the game is very easy when you know what you are doing, which is not the same for D3 or Path of Exile. i.e. D3 and POE can have outliers in PvM, no such thing in D2, unless its in PvP.


You can literally learn how to namelock stomp, teleshockwave, for telesmite/hammer with a few weeks practice don't be ridiculous hahahahahahahaha
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Feb 20 2022 05:24am
the best athletes both in real life and in esports are young. Because they are stronger faster and better hand/eye co-ordination, and they can learn faster. you are right, one can learn how to namelock stomp, teleshockwave, for telesmite/hammer with a few weeks practice but one cannot do that consistently if one is old and with 1-2 weeks practice. Some people are also just better then others in certain activities, or, gaming. Yes, some sports (can we call chess a sport?) you can be old and better, but phsyical activity is a young mans game, as is esports, and D2 PvP. you simply slow down the older you get. nothing wrong with PvM or HC in D2, but its simply not as difficult as other games (or PvP).

you can pvp if you want, and you can learn to namelock, but to use ur anology, an old man cant compete with a young man in a 100M sprint.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 20 2022 05:29am
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Quote (KRR @ Feb 20 2022 03:46am)
Literally happens every d2r pvp game, its full of sins.
Havent once got trapped and couldn’t escape lol there’s many ways to avoid getting fhr’d without wsg you just lack skill and have the reaction time of a heavy set native speaker of español


Not talking about d2r or using charge on a paladin
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Quote (Eshay @ Feb 20 2022 12:15pm)
Hahaha again, this just shows you're butthurt you're being told a game that you struggle with is easy and has a lowskill cap.

Bring nothing to the table? I'm literally putting the table together asking you why you think this game has a high skill cap and to give examples and all you can do is throw insults with nothing to back it up, it's just plain embarrassing.


people like you talking out of their ass piss me off sometime. But ok lets do "arguments"

1-You need to have good namelock skill to do that. Part of doing that is aiming fast, otherp part is getting used to how people move and behave in pvp
2- you need to learn how to play match up in general, which can be fairly technical
3- Mastering namelock manipulation while in a real high speed duel take some skills
4- there is some high skill combo like smite foh stomp and sw vulcano stomp. They arent that hard to realise if you practice on a non moving target, but try to do them against a always moving at high speed caster and you got like 5 people in eu and na combined able to do it consistantly. And people have been playing that game in pvp for YEARS
5- all that is even hard in tvt, when so much is happening on your screen

happy?

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the best athletes both in real life and in esports are young. Because they are stronger faster and better hand/eye co-ordination, and they can learn faster. you are right, one can learn how to namelock stomp, teleshockwave, for telesmite/hammer with a few weeks practice but one cannot do that consistently if one is old and with 1-2 weeks practice. Some people are just better then others. Yes, some sports (can we call chess a sport?) you can be old and better, but phsyical activity is a young mans game, as is esports, and D2 PvP. you simply slow down the older you get. nothing wrong with PvM or HC in D2, but its simply not as difficult as other games (or PvP).

you can pvp if you want but to use ur anology, your too old and you will be walking while everyone else is running.


Dude your whole arguement doesn't actually have anything to do with the skill cap of the game being low lol you're literally just rambling on about external factors making a game easier/harder but not about the actual mechanics.

D2pvp has low skill cap mechanics that can be learned in weeks. Stop kidding yourself
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Quote (harg @ Feb 20 2022 10:29pm)
people like you talking out of their ass piss me off sometime. But ok lets do "arguments"

1-You need to have good namelock skill to do that. Part of doing that is aiming fast, otherp part is getting used to how people move and behave in pvp
2- you need to learn how to play match up in general, which can be fairly technical
3- Mastering namelock manipulation while in a real high speed duel take some skills
4- there is some high skill combo like smite foh stomp and sw vulcano stomp. They arent that hard to realise if you practice on a non moving target, but try to do them against a always moving at high speed caster and you got like 5 people in eu and na combined able to do it consistantly
5- all that is even hard in tvt, when so much is happening on your screen

happy?


You can literally learn all of that in weeks, ill give benifit of the doubt for your side of the arguement and say you can be incredibly good at them with 6 months of daily practice.

That is LOW skill.

Tell me something that will take years and years please
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Feb 20 2022 05:32am
If that was true then why is it that the same players consistently win tournaments ? Luck? Unfair advantage, what do you want to say ? When you have a sport and the same players consistently win, it means they are more skillfull then others. the logic should not be difficult here ? Even in Poker the same players win and alot of people (like you) see X event as a pure luck game with no skill when thats clearly not the case.

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If that was true then why is it that the same players consistently win tournaments ? when you have a sport and the same players consistently win, it means thet are more skill full then others. the logic should not be difficult here ?


Damn you actually have no brain cells.

The arguement isn't wether there are more skilfull people than others, it's wether the mechanics of the game are low skill or high skill holy moly.

Someone might be better at the low skill mechanics than others or even the best but that doesn't change the actual mechanics of what they're doing is low jesus

Edit/ LOL that's how bad your arguement is you're making assumptions of my beliefs on other sports and assuming that I think poker is a low skill cap game hahahahahahaha, which I do not think at all, there is incredible amounts of maths required for poker

This post was edited by Eshay on Feb 20 2022 05:36am
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Quote (Eshay @ Feb 20 2022 12:31pm)
You can literally learn all of that in weeks, ill give benifit of the doubt for your side of the arguement and say you can be incredibly good at them with 6 months of daily practice.

That is LOW skill.

Tell me something that will take years and years please


No you cant. Build a pvp char and train 2 weeks, you will get rekt so hard by real pvpers you will think they are hacking
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Feb 20 2022 05:37am
Quote (Eshay @ Feb 20 2022 12:35pm)
Damn you actually have no brain cells.

The arguement isn't wether there are more skilfull people than others, it's wether the mechanics of the game are low skill or high skill holy moly.

Someone might be better at the low skill mechanics than others or even the best but that doesn't change the actual mechanics of what they're doing is low jesus



Even if you were right, by your logic games like CS would be unskilled ? People are just good at aiming, using specific weapon in specific situation and learning the maps???

Wtf are you smoking bro

This post was edited by harg on Feb 20 2022 05:37am
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