Don't cow runs require you to beat the game first? Because going through act2-3 as a java is a real pain. Of course, within a group you shouldn't have problems. With bone necro I might encounter some issues in act 2 but I can use CE on skeletons to get rid of their masters. I also find monarch en mass in chaos sanctuary. I think I'll go with the bone necro this time around. Just need to get lucky with a white base.

Yes it does but it’s well worth it, just get a friend to deal with immunities, shouldn’t be that hard

bone nec is dogshit
for pvm either go summoner or novamancer/summoner hybrid. pure novamancer could be ok too, but bone is horrid.

can't even compare java and bone nec in pvm, in any area, in any context

Then you never played one.

so you're saying bonemancer is a viable pick for a early ladder, in which people want good damage output and survivability with minimum gear?
aight buddy

Yes, you can reach act4 hell with just white, lore, stealth, a spirit or splendor with self found crap along the way. With that same equip you can wreck flame river and chaos over and over.

This is the bone spear damage you get with the items I described at lvl 75 (no torch, no anni, nothing):
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner-ptr/ki010670

All of them are perfectly attainable.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Feb 18 2022 01:49pm

that sounds absolutely horrid compared to javazon

Not with corpse explosion in play and act 4.

blizzard and hammerdin still the best

double swing barb