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Mar 8 2017 09:15am
Oh and as I have said:

There's always GM FFA BvB which you people seem to forget.
A much more modern style of playing BvB - it has its own good and thoughtful rules. And it's way cheaper than AoW.
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Mar 8 2017 09:17am
Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 17:11)
Please read the definition of "Bug".
Just because that method exists, it doesnt mean it's meant to be there.

Anyway, votes won't decide this if people dont comment their votes, as BlackTwister said. You can't decide something like this with anonymous votes.
Think about BvB rules carefully. We have spent years playing and thinking about these rules. They weren't made just out of moods.


Even rules can change over the years.

Bugs that isnt patched and prolly never will patch anyway (quite sure this wont get patched) isnt a big problem to allow now (I only can think of this eth bug by this).

Bugs that occured in previous patch(es) should be forbidden indeed. Those arent patched for no reason..

E; At second post (post #21):
There are way more aow tours. Barely ffa tours, so..
That means those ppl only can join ffa tours, while perhaps they want to join aow tours as well.

Alsp u and twister are the only one saying NO atm.

Razen, vooldo, iridius and I said YES.
4 yes
2 no
^ just atm though.

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Even rules can change over the years.

Bugs that isnt patched and prolly never will patch anyway (quite sure this wont get patched) isnt a big problem to allow now (I only can think of this eth bug by this).

Bugs that occured in previous patch(es) should be forbidden indeed. Those arent patched for no reason..


fact is, if you want you can always do aow tournaments with exceptional rules like allowing eth bug prudence. but this does not mean that the written core aow rules will change.
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Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 04:17pm)


E; At second post (post #21):
There are way more aow tours. Barely ffa tours, so..
That means those ppl only can join ffa tours, while perhaps they want to join aow tours as well.


how about you people organize more ffa tours then ;)

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Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 17:20)
how about you people organize more ffa tours then ;)


Will that happen? I dont think so. Anyway. I think people should join both aow and ffa tours if they want with 'cheap' gear, next to eni build then (which isnt a 'def' armor)

Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 17:20)
fact is, if you want you can always do aow tournaments with exceptional rules like allowing eth bug prudence. but this does not mean that the written core aow rules will change.


Is that a problem? It shouldnt be a problem to change one tiny rule in 'ebugged PRUDENCE is allowed'.


Again:
Atm its
4 yes (vooldo, razen, iridius and me)
2 no (argand and blacktwister)

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Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 04:22pm)
Will that happen? I dont think so. Anyway. I think people should join both aow and ffa tours if they want with 'cheap' gear, next to eni build then (which isnt a 'def' armor)



Is that a problem? It shouldnt be a problem to change one tiny rule in 'ebugged PRUDENCE is allowed'.


Again:
Atm its
4 yes (vooldo, razen, iridius and me)
2 no (argand and blacktwister)


it is a problem of course.
read again what i quoted on first page: "Why are these rules hard to understand sometimes"
these rules are normatives.
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Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 17:25)
it is a problem of course.
read again what i quoted on first page: "Why are these rules hard to understand sometimes"
these rules are normatives.


Why is it such a big deal to change rules?

It isnt that much..

We can atleast TRY it first ofc before editting the ruleset.

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Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 04:27pm)
Why is it such a big deal to change rules?

It isnt that much..

We can atelast TRY it first ofc before editting the ruleset.


we DID try... for years!
Check again what I wrote. There was a time when Eth Bug Prudence was allowed in AoW and in 2012 (before you even registered on jsp!) we decided to ban it for it being a bugged item and going against the rules of AoW.
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i think biggest issue is as forementioned that those 10k armors drop in value and their holders get pissed of coz loss of fg.
i voted yes even tho i dont like nor play aow but it seems pretty reasonable to have a cheap option for highdef armors. that would also pop prices for 2soc ebug armors :D

This post was edited by liskod2 on Mar 8 2017 09:30am
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Quote (liskod2 @ Mar 8 2017 04:30pm)
i only found this


also another quote from 5years ago.
i think biggest issue is as forementioned that those 10k armors drop in value and their holders get pissed of coz loss of fg.
i voted yes even tho i dont like nor play aow but it seems pretty reasonable to have a cheap option for highdef armors. that would also pop prices for 2soc ebug armors :D


if you dont play aow, your vote doesnt count, lol.
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