disagree, I quote bui:

If you use claw block on the wof assa it's Bm to use wisp aswell.

It will be the same increase to both.. still going to have l8z and people will have more survivability to box n rep

Besides it would make it harder for other classes vs sins, vts light sorcs being the most common

The rules are fine

Reduced ls damage through 1 piece is indirectly going to increase mindblast damage and everything else.

If i'm going to try to tele out and get a lock on you and have 5 stray traps that take me down to 80% life, i'd rather just sit and camp, BUT if i can tele out and get a lock on you while only eating 10% damage, but can take YOU to 60% life... then it is now more incentive for me to play offensive. Get the point? It is the same concept as paintball/airsoft vs laser tag. There is more action in laser tag because you can "respawn" and do not die or get hurt too bad from getting shot. In paintball/airsoft, people will camp more and play cautiously because getting shot = fucked. In real life.... its even more camp, so much that people will rather "l8z" and "die irl" than risk getting shot at.

People who complain about "L8z" or "defensive" play are low tier duelers, play styles are what they are, I'll chase any l8zer down and end a duel quickly, redardless of how "L8z" they are, the duels wont last long, it's just you being outclassed by someone else' playstyle, only agreeing wisp should be gm because a LS trapper is at such an advantage vs a WOF sin that it should even be able to beat a WOF sin that uses a TGODS... the fact that WOF's output delay is a solid second longer and is a slow missle compared to LS' fast missles with a further auto target range is way more than enough adv, quit being pussies


and @ bui saying kicker rules are applied same as ghost, it wasnt always that way, atleast not on d2(pk) back in the day..

I've yet to see a good offensive trapper beat a good defensive trapper. It simply isn't viable without sorb, you make 1 wrong tele into 5 traps and you just lost 30-40% of your life.

I hate trap v trap with a passion but if you agree to pvp me offensively, I'll duel u and "defensively" wear you down. I'm east non ladder btw

I know who you are bui its austin

ive never had an issue offensing defensive trappers, its purely about decision making and trap placement, traps can only hit me within a certain range, so if I continue to push as I stay outside of that range, it's not an issue.

I know what he's trying to say and obviously mb is a good source of damage but even with that being said it is still the same story.. you don't think the defensive trapper will ever mb? And be a tad offensive unless they are c/t trapping in which case they don't allow you much room to even get a name lock unless you can cut them off

Regardless of duel styles and how you handle it, it is a boring matchup for those reasons, giving 5% max lr isn't going to make them better





And if they are l8z other is low teir? Lol? People pride d2, maybe not as much as they used to but maybe you don't remember that

im not saying ppl that are l8z are low tier im saying people that cry about it are, anybody whos decent understands decision making / strategy and knows there is no real "l8zing" just called being smart, after you hit a certain point in pvp namelock speed, defensiveness etc stop being factors, because every1 understands that/can do that in the top tier, its just a matter of decision making, and if u decide to rush a defensive player you need to understand to take cautionary actions while rushing or you get hurt badly, theres ways to chase defensive players while maintaining a defensive roll.

Obviously ways to dueling vs it and I said other is low teir

There is a time when it is a problem though, everyone knows it, it's why orb sorcs are banned and there is a rule on how many screens you can be away for how long to try and prevent it as much as possible

Weather trying to run out their mana or just reppin life or even a necro spiriting off screen and is telen soon as you appear on the mini map

There's many things you really got to take in to consideration obviously about how to go about it but it can be the point you sit in one spot and say gd