oh yeah right
well yeah orb/hydra works i even tried some nova hybrid builds that were ok
i think nova/orb was better than nova/hydra

Ill chek it up thanks for advice and for other character beside sorc anything new and fun to play thats make good starter ? With new build possibility

I always found a summon necro to be very strong with CE early ladder without full gear, can run cows for farming quite easily. if you have a sorc to play with, lower res is also great for support of course

True but its annoying as fuck ahaha

only other char that can clear efficiently besides sorc without end game gear would be a trapsin I think

(LoD)

My first char this ladder is sin.

Trapper then Talon, and killing Ubers now