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Jun 20 2022 09:52am
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 05:26pm)
2/20 circ 2/20 amu white spirit arach bloodfirst fcr ring bk aldurs dmg setup
I don't see any dr here either... and you loose +2 skills not +1... +1 on amu and +1 on ring


U can Swap around. A thing u cant do in your garbage build
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Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 20 2022 05:52pm)
U can Swap around. A thing u cant do in your garbage build


swap around what? You either play full dmg build or full dr build... you keep offending but you have no real arguments to back up what you are saying
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Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 10:17am)
why would you need additional 30 fhr in 2.4 patch. that's a waste, when you can have +2 curses 20fcr and 30 cold res for like 5fg?
And where do I miss fcr? wand 20 + helm 20 + gloves 20 + arach 20 + amu 10 + spirit 35 = 125?



You don’t use arach for virtually all matchups.

Only time you use arach is vs other nec or vs hdin that aren’t using grief charge.
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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 20 2022 06:13pm)
You don’t use arach for virtually all matchups.

Only time you use arach is vs other nec or vs hdin that aren’t using grief charge.


ofc not, you use arach vs casters in dmg setup and dungo vs melee/phys in dr setup. I am not sure what other belt would be any better for any other duel type other than these two

This post was edited by VapersIsland on Jun 20 2022 10:16am
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Jun 20 2022 10:21am
never use 2x fcr rings.

u need to b able to swap out ur 2nd ring on all chars apart from dudu/sin, so u can utilize raven/wisp when needed.

that means 20fcr amu is a must.
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Quote (JoGG @ Jun 20 2022 06:21pm)
never use 2x fcr rings.

u need to b able to swap out ur 2nd ring on all chars apart from dudu/sin, so u can utilize raven/wisp when needed.

that means 20fcr amu is a must.


vs elemental casters I am not going to use any fcr rings whatsoever. 2x bk and when needed use raven/whisp/dwarf
this is why I don't want to get tied to any stats from the rings like str or res

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Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 06:23pm)
vs elemental casters I am not going to use any fcr rings whatsoever. 2x bk and when needed use raven/whisp/dwarf



what about a 2v2 vs a dudu/sin team?

what about a 1n1 vs vts, hybsins, javas, or bowas for that matter?

there are cases where ull need both res and dr; 20 fcr amu is required :]
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vs elemental casters I am not going to use any fcr rings whatsoever. 2x bk and when needed use raven/whisp/dwarf
this is why I don't want to get tied to any stats from the rings like str or res


gotta love when people like you ask for helps with builds then argue their dumb build is better

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Quote (JoGG @ Jun 20 2022 06:27pm)
what about a 2v2 vs a dudu/sin team?

what about a 1n1 vs vts, hybsins, javas, or bowas for that matter?

there are cases where ull need both res and dr; 20 fcr amu is required :]


I was thinking about it and I think it's best to drop dungos for these kind of matchups for the +1/20fcr arach and get down to 39% dr while still being able to have reduction on light/fire from sin and cold from druid on both rings
When it comes to 1v1s it makes things easier but same story I think it's easier to drop dungo and play with 39% dr from coa berber and enigma and still be able to use a whisp/dwarf/raven x2 for maximum reduction
But I guess for 2v2's this nec would need to be completely rebuilt, I was not even considering doing that tbh

Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Jun 20 2022 06:29pm)
gotta love when people like you ask for helps with builds then argue their dumb build is better

:wacko:


I don't argue, but when someone says my build is "dumb" I ask for explaination why... and when they don't have an argument then I guess it's not so dumb after all
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Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 11:40am)
I was thinking about it and I think it's best to drop dungos for these kind of matchups for the +1/20fcr arach and get down to 39% dr while still being able to have reduction on light/fire from sin and cold from druid on both rings
When it comes to 1v1s it makes things easier but same story I think it's easier to drop dungo and play with 39% dr from coa berber and enigma and still be able to use a whisp/dwarf/raven x2 for maximum reduction
But I guess for 2v2's this nec would need to be completely rebuilt, I was not even considering doing that tbh



I don't argue, but when someone says my build is "dumb" I ask for explaination why... and when they don't have an argument then I guess it's not so dumb after all



Nec shouldn’t ever use coa
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