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May 6 2022 05:48pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ 7 May 2022 01:41)
Does flickering flame beat shako for pvm?

No.


Is flickering flame useful for pvp?

No




Flickering flame is trash.


You're using these offensive words, but you're avoiding the truth and the question. FF is too the best in slot in terms of pure damage. It's not trash. There may be better items in terms of overall performance, but it is not trash.
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May 6 2022 05:51pm
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You're using these offensive words, but you're avoiding the truth and the question. FF is too the best in slot in terms of pure damage. It's not trash. There may be better items in terms of overall performance, but it is not trash.



A 3 fire skill / 20 FCR circlet woth 2 sockets from Larzuk with 2 fire facets does more damage then flickering flame.
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May 6 2022 06:13pm
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A 3 fire skill / 20 FCR circlet woth 2 sockets from Larzuk with 2 fire facets does more damage then flickering flame.



For hydra this is probably true. For fire druid FF is bis with the right pelt
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May 6 2022 06:15pm
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For hydra this is probably true. For fire druid FF is bis with the right pelt



A raven lore with facet is better.
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May 6 2022 06:25pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ May 6 2022 07:15pm)
A raven lore with facet is better.



Raven lore can't do +6 to skills. A 6 volcano/fissure 2os blue pelt with facets is technically the best but good luck finding one
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May 6 2022 06:29pm
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Raven lore can't do +6 to skills. A 6 volcano/fissure 2os blue pelt with facets is technically the best but good luck finding one



Raven lore can do -30 fire Res and 7 raven and 25 all resist and 5% fire damage.


Raven lore is better
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May 6 2022 06:49pm
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A 3 fire skill / 20 FCR circlet woth 2 sockets from Larzuk with 2 fire facets does more damage then flickering flame.


There you go. Why didn't you write that in the first place withut these "trash" and "garbage" comments? And even if it does more damage, it's harder to obtain and probably more expensive.
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May 6 2022 06:55pm
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There you go. Why didn't you write that in the first place withut these "trash" and "garbage" comments? And even if it does more damage, it's harder to obtain and probably more expensive.



Because flickering flame is trash and shako is better.

Or a common 2skill or 3 tab circlet with 20 FCR or 100 life or whatever and 2 sockets is better.


And 2/20 or 3/20 circlets were 5fg on legacy.



All the new runewords aren’t better than cheap alternatives already available.


This is what you get when Mr.HasLessIQthanALlama is the face of your game.
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May 6 2022 08:41pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ 7 May 2022 02:55)
Because flickering flame is trash and shako is better.

Or a common 2skill or 3 tab circlet with 20 FCR or 100 life or whatever and 2 sockets is better.


And 2/20 or 3/20 circlets were 5fg on legacy.



All the new runewords aren’t better than cheap alternatives already available.


This is what you get when Mr.HasLessIQthanALlama is the face of your game.


It's not trash. Harlequin crest may be better overall, but doesn't deal more damage.

They may have been 5 fg during the end of a ladder season.

I may not disagree with that, but it's nice to get some alternatives to have more fun with the game. Not everyone is obsessed with harassing and bullying others in pvp and getting the ultra expensive items.

100% agree with the last sentence there though.
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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ May 7 2022 07:29am)
Raven lore can do -30 fire Res and 7 raven and 25 all resist and 5% fire damage.


Raven lore is better


The -15% fire res and 5% fire damage difference is roughly equal to the +3 in fissure and +3 in another fire skill, like firestorm or volcano or molten boulder, heck if you are the son of god, you can even drop a 3os +3/+3/+3 fissure/firestorm/molten boulder, which beat this -15%/+5% any day
Level 8 resist fire aura is 106% fire res, which is greater than 25 to all res, and don't forget the 8% max fire res, which is extremely valuable
Thus, in the most optimal condition, flickering flame > ravenlore
But even winning the powerball is more likely than getting a +3/+3/+3 druid pelt
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