Quote (0blique @ Jan 6 2022 12:55am)

well it's just something to roll as you collect the gems playing. though i suppose you could actually try to buy 31k chipped gems lol. you're going to be seeing lots of them playing anyway, so why not roll them? that was just an example though, another one you could try for is the exact same recipe with a caduceus instead for priest's caduceus of the apprentice (+2 pal / 10 fcr). the blessed hammer & concentration aura staffmods are available for that item.

on d2r, i've been burning most of my non-ruby or amethyst pgems on a sacred targe, which has a 1/15307 chance of spawning as jeweler's of deflecting with ilvl 77 (that's not counting the potential auto mod). comparatively, baal gcs have a 1/121000 to be a specific skiller with 41+ life (if that's the only type of prefix you want). only some of those skill tabs are actually sought after, but either way combined those are also comparatively decent odds that you'll get one someone likes.

in my opinion, it's still not the only item worth rerolling (particularly if you want to use the item you are rolling). i'd also consider magic diadems - lots of potential salable results (volcanic of the magus, artisan's of speed, etc) that have comparative odds (100k or less)

Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 6 2022 02:02am)

You are completely misrepsentinf the odds to help your story.

Quote (0blique @ Jan 6 2022 01:21am)

except that i clearly noted that, "that's not counting the potential auto mod". even without a perfect auto/staffmod, they're still highly valuable items if you're at all successful (example after a quick search: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91482566 note that it has no ed/ar and is imperfect, too).
what exactly do you think i misrepresented? you don't waste much time collecting 1x1 size items along your path mfing (nobody ever said not to lol - who's the one misrepresenting?) and you get extra chances at an item that is valuable (or usable, depending on how far along your character is). you're wrong and you have a stupid and ineffective attitude.

Quote (0blique @ Jan 6 2022 01:21am)

except that i clearly noted that, "that's not counting the potential auto mod". even without a perfect auto/staffmod, they're still highly valuable items if you're at all successful (example after a quick search: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91482566 note that it has no ed/ar and is imperfect, too).
what exactly do you think i misrepresented? you don't waste much time collecting 1x1 size items along your path mfing (nobody ever said not to lol - who's the one misrepresenting?) and you get extra chances at an item that is valuable (or usable, depending on how far along your character is). you're wrong and you have a stupid and ineffective attitude.

Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 6 2022 02:44am)

I’m also not wrong. To get a 1/15,000 chance at an item, it takes 45,000 button clicks To just grab the chipped gems. . At 1 second per, it takes 12.5 hours to just pick up the chipped gems in reference.

That doesn’t count the time to put them in your stash. And then in your cube, and then Transmute. Then move item out of cube. And then move it to stash.

It is a complete time sink. You are sinfifxbrlt better off just keeping on MFing and by passing those chipped gems

Quote (0blique @ Jan 6 2022 01:51am)

that time isn't wasted if it's done while not mfing anyway (or if you have a degenerate gambling habit to feed). also, ctrl+click streamlines things a good deal. i admit, sometimes i pass them by when my inv is full though :)

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91677887 wonder how much this one sold for! it's 1/1767920 chance but a 35 roll - higher than the one in the first link - is 1/160720. comparing it to a hoz, i'd say whether the 3 extra sockets outweigh the extra skills/stats on hoz is entirely subjective to the build. some people just like getting extra rare stuff, too, so regardless of actual use it comes down to what people are willing to pay.

Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 6 2022 01:57am)

Just to grab the gems from the ground for that 1/1.8million chance, not counting turning them jnto p gems and moving them to Cube and then moving sacred targe to cube. And then the 3 pgems. Etc etc. assuming each action takes a second, (agin this is human hand, not automated), there is roughly 10 additional steps. To do what you said would take 45,000 hours. Which is over 2 years of 40 hours a week, working 52 weeks in a year, to roll an item.

Assuming the person makes $10/hour, that’s a $45,000 item.



Come on dude. You are so clearly wrong.

Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 6 2022 02:57am)

Just to grab the gems from the ground for that 1/1.8million chance, not counting turning them jnto p gems and moving them to Cube and then moving sacred targe to cube. And then the 3 pgems. Etc etc. assuming each action takes a second, (agin this is human hand, not automated), there is roughly 10 additional steps. To do what you said would take 45,000 hours. Which is over 2 years of 40 hours a week, working 52 weeks in a year, to roll an item.

Assuming the person makes $10/hour, that’s a $45,000 item.



Come on dude. You are so clearly wrong.