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Mar 8 2017 04:10am
Quote (nuvo @ 8 Mar 2017 11:31)
No because aow is showing off the rare items bought for hundreds of dollars and enabling poor villagers to join is bad for reputation. What's next, allowing grief, rendering thousands dollars' worth of rare axes and swords useless?



Grief wont happend.
But imo prudence is worth a try.

Ofc becuz im a poor villager and want a better chance :)
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Mar 8 2017 05:49am
Voted yes

Prudence nn op bvb jools ^^ this is ryl problem for some ppls B)

This post was edited by iridius on Mar 8 2017 05:52am
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Voted yes

Prudence nn op bvb jools ^^ this is ryl problem for some ppls B)


how's that? 30 60 9 9 is public and costs 100 fg lol
and you own tons of these jools yourself?

plus there were ALWAYS cheap alternatives to 30 60 9 9, it didnt have to be perfect.
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Mar 8 2017 08:30am
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how's that? 30 60 9 9 is public and costs 100 fg lol
and you own tons of these jools yourself?

plus there were ALWAYS cheap alternatives to 30 60 9 9, it didnt have to be perfect.


Where 100fg jewels?

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Mar 8 2017 08:42am
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how's that? 30 60 9 9 is public and costs 100 fg lol
and you own tons of these jools yourself?

plus there were ALWAYS cheap alternatives to 30 60 9 9, it didnt have to be perfect.


You prb gets confused with 1k tho, or atleast red ones.

Ive made an iso topic some time ago.
There was a 500 fg offer for 306099 and even 1k from Xenion.

Yes, there are cheap alternatives, but still those costs like 75-150 fgs.

If some1 wants to spent like 500 on full char, those jools arent an option as they cost like 75 each.

Dont forget a decent inventory can be pretty expansive as well. (Prb most expansive of all).

Also the "most" budget barb weapon costs already 100 fgs too if good roll (botd ba).. (even a decent edc roll costs like 80 fgs orso)

E: also u 'need' jewels in shield and helmet (stormshield and arreat)

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 08:49am
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Mar 8 2017 08:54am
Nobody ever said BvB would be a cheap hobby ;) And nobody ever said you could or should get a good barb in 1 day. It takes time. Why do you think people played years and years before they had a great character?
We didnt have the luxury to buy rare items from shops back then. It takes time to play, grind and get good. That's how diablo 2 and other action rpgs work.



http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76028208&f=54&p=514242048#p514242048

250 fg. I've seen one guy selling them for 100 fg as well.

Oh and just so you know: In the beginning this jewel had cost 5k FG. Before it was publicly available.

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Nobody ever said BvB would be a cheap hobby ;) And nobody ever said you could or should get a good barb in 1 day. It takes time. Why do you think people played years and years before they had a great character?
We didnt have the luxury to buy rare items from shops back then. It takes time to play, grind and get good. That's how diablo 2 and other action rpgs work.



http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76028208&f=54&p=514242048#p514242048

250 fg. I've seen one guy selling them for 100 fg as well.

Oh and just so you know: In the beginning this jewel had cost 5k FG. Before it was publicly available.


Well makin smt 'cheap' allowed like prudence makes more ppl wanna join I guess. Esp 'new' people.

Not any1 can afford those jools. And as I say for a 'budget' barb u need like 2 atleast (arreat and stormshield).

This prudence is just another possibility.

Now ppl can 'choose' between a cheap def build (prudence) and a cheap life build (eni)

E; saying prudence is OP doesnt make sense, since most of you guys has already godly eth/rep armors, which should be better than prudence anyway. (More life, more damage, little less def)

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Well makin smt 'cheap' allowed like prudence makes more ppl wanna join I guess. Esp 'new' people.

Not any1 can afford those jools. And as I say for a 'budget' barb u need like 2 atleast (arreat and stormshield).

This prudence is just another possibility.

Now ppl can 'choose' between a cheap def build (prudence) and a cheap life build (eni)

E; saying prudence is OP doesnt make sense, since most of you guys has already godly eth/rep armors, which should be better than prudence anyway. (More life, more damage, little less def)


it wasnt about prudence being OP. It was about ETH BUG Prudence being a bugged item - and bugs etc were ALWAYS FORBIDDEN in aow.
If you people start to decide to bring prudence back into AoW, next thing will be zodbug fury, bugbelt and so on... just play GM FFA if you want bug items. There's nothing wrong with these! And GM FFA is a great style of playing, IMO even better than AoW.
But bug items are not allowed in AoW. That's how it is.
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Mar 8 2017 09:06am
Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 17:04)
it wasnt about prudence being OP. It was about ETH BUG Prudence being a bugged item - and bugs etc were ALWAYS FORBIDDEN in aow.
If you people start to decide to bring prudence back into AoW, next thing will be zodbug fury, bugbelt and so on... just play GM FFA if you want bug items. There's nothing wrong with these! And GM FFA is a great style of playing, IMO even better than AoW.
But bug items are not allowed in AoW. That's how it is.


Theres a big difference between Eth bug and Zod bug or bug belt item.

Bug belt has been patched.
Zod bug has been patched
Eth bug isnt patched, and wont be patched afaik. Seems this is PART OF THE GAME.

I agree that bugged items like bug belt and btals should be forbidden, as they dont spawn anymore.
I agree that zod bugged items should be forbidden because they dont spawn anymore (or you cant make zbugged items anymore atleast)

E; and we can atleast try it tho.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 09:08am
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Mar 8 2017 09:11am
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 04:06pm)
Theres a big difference between Eth bug and Zod bug or bug belt item.

Bug belt has been patched.
Zod bug has been patched
Eth bug isnt patched, and wont be patched afaik. Seems this is PART OF THE GAME.


Please read the definition of "Bug".
Just because that method exists, it doesnt mean it's meant to be there.

Anyway, votes won't decide this if people dont comment their votes, as BlackTwister said. You can't decide something like this with anonymous votes.
Think about BvB rules carefully. We have spent years playing and thinking about these rules. They weren't made just out of moods.
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