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Apr 9 2014 05:31pm
i m working on an orb/es build atm.
with orb i think you can spend more points in es and max out the possible dmg.

20orb/ib/cm/telek is done at lvl 7x so you dont gert burned that fast.

i precast 5 es so i dont spend too much mana for now. when i have about 1.2k+ i ll go for 9-14 es.

but for hc, better go for as much as possible life. so prolly calc everything lower.
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Apr 9 2014 06:14pm
es blizz tears cs up honestly only annoying thing is need to precast es from staff or ur blizz will suck dmg

shoot for 1k life mana w/ max telek and none in esheild.
I used fcr ring amu shard frostburn which I think is best setup but you could do magefist sojs or even rock 40cast with a wand setup or something.
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Apr 10 2014 05:20am
My current ES PvP sorc atm goes like this:
lvl 79

854 hp
990 mana

70 fcr
61 fhr
40% block

75 fr
35 cr (got swap gear for 145 cr stack)
34 lr

+4 all
20 telek, only hard points work with telek :)
16 + 4 + 5(precast) = 25 (80%), will max this later
20 + 4 = 24 firewall
20 + 4 = 24 warmth
7 + 4 = 24 firemastery

6.1k firewall dmg atm :), but when finished at lvl 96, with max ES, Telek, Warmth, Firewall and mastery, with +4 the dmg will be around 8.9k :)

Fire dmg is useless for cs(so many immunes), but still this works quite nice atm, as it can survive quite well, even without bo :)
With bo nn to pot mana unless takes some dmg


With 80% es the damages in pvp goes something like this:

For 10k hammer = 800 dmg to mana 250 dmg to life. So im aiming for 1 - 1.1k mana in the future and 1k life as then less chance that mana will get burned :)
but still atm can tank 1 hammer without losing all the mana, since warmth is always keeping mana quite high, especially when pot is on aswell :)
For 6k fb = 480 dmg to mana and 150 to life, but the dmg to life also gets reduced based on fr, so with 75fr, dmg to life is ~75!!
with cold dmg it's a bit different since the mastery doesnt increase dmg, but lowers res. What that means is that the dmg to life is a bit high, but dmg to mana is lower.
So 3k blizz dmg is 240 dmg to mana, but ~188 dmg to life(160 cr stack and 24cm, which is -135cr).

Hope this helps, just what i've learnt about ES so far :)
I'm going firewall for fun atm, but those 60 pts can also be put in orb, bolt and mastery :)
Or what ever strikes your mind :D
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Apr 10 2014 07:49am
firewall is cool cuz warmth synergy but i think with that much energy sheild (and soon to be more when u max it) you would be better off with more mana, maybe like 100vit rest energy build or something.
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Apr 10 2014 08:33am
Ow.. indeed an interesting combination of skills. I expect this char to need a bit less mana than a fireballer. It being a more defensive char with insane mana regain.
Then again, when you are locked by a fballer, the 80% dmg to mana will probably break your shield. More mana would also increase the mana regain rate ;)

Btw, is this an 110 fc build right? --> 40% block = woe and +2 amu + soj + magef would give the +4 skills
Although i really like 110 for fballers, wont 70 fc make this easier to build, more tanky and better dmg? I'm guessing that a more defensive char would not need the 110 fc.
But then again, I've never played a firewall build ^

This post was edited by Knaapie on Apr 10 2014 08:37am
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Apr 10 2014 08:57am
Quote (vonhizzle @ 10 Apr 2014 16:49)
firewall is cool cuz warmth synergy but i think with that much energy sheild (and soon to be more when u max it) you would be better off with more mana, maybe like 100vit rest energy build or something.


mm, that's what usually people go for and think that ur mana is your life. I'm taking a different approach and stay with the basic, life is what i'm looking to preserve, with the defense of the ES.
As this is a pvp build I can't pot hp, but can pot mana :) So with ~1.1k mana i can tank 2 6k fb's (2x480= 960dmg to mana(80%es), 1100-960=140 mana left) As it also has massive reg + it is highly likely that iw ill drink a pot after the 1st hit and have the mana to get a way even after 2 hits.
But also in SvS you would have to have quite a good opponent to get 2fb's in a row or even worst 3 :)
And if my shield does go down, i still have a massive life pool to tank the dmg :) but also massive reg + pot to get mana back for tele asap!


Quote (Knaapie @ 10 Apr 2014 17:33)
Ow.. indeed an interesting combination of skills. I expect this char to need a bit less mana than a fireballer. It being a more defensive char with insane mana regain.
Then again, when you are locked by a fballer, the 80% dmg to mana will probably break your shield. More mana would also increase the mana regain rate ;)

Btw, is this an 110 fc build right?  --> 40% block = woe  and +2 amu + soj + magef would give the +4 skills
Although i really like 110 for fballers, wont 70 fc make this easier to build, more tanky and better dmg? I'm guessing that a more defensive char would not need the 110 fc.
But then again, I've never played a firewall build ^


Hey, glad you're intrigued by it :) And i've never played it before aswell, iz my first try! :D
And no this is 70 fcr, shard + woe, with 2xsoj and 2amu + frosties. So 90% to max mana.
Rare armor, helm, belt and boots. If u want i can post S/S.

Atm the only thing im missing repl (5 to be exact to comply with duelling standards)
And maybe some str mana dex on gear, so have had to use some hard points :/ but still got 2 respecs left and will use them later when more lvl and better eq.

/e Also might have to make 2 sorcs, 1 with more mana and 1 more hp, as fb burns mana, but cold burns hp :P

This post was edited by sininetraktor on Apr 10 2014 09:02am
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Apr 11 2014 02:22pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Apr 10 2014 04:33pm)
Then again, when you are locked by a fballer, the 80% dmg to mana will probably break your shield. More mana would also increase the mana regain rate ;)


we did some duels and its hard to break his shield.
tried orb, blizz and fb. and cuz of the res thing, cold is the only thing which looks like it can take him down.

he got a realy interesting build and with this big mana + maxed regen you shoot him and feel like your dmg is like zero.
and when you feel like, the next hit could break his shield, his regen got him over the point again and again.

but also fw is a non direct defensive spell. hard to play i think but he is doing a good job.
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Apr 11 2014 02:38pm
Quote (Doerte @ Apr 11 2014 09:22pm)
we did some duels and its hard to break his shield.
tried orb, blizz and fb. and cuz of the res thing, cold is the only thing which looks like it can take him down.

he got a realy interesting build and with this big mana + maxed regen you shoot him and feel like your dmg is like zero.
and when you feel like, the next hit could break his shield, his regen got him over the point again and again.

but also fw is a non direct defensive spell. hard to play i think but he is doing a good job.


who is he? sininetraktor? anyways - pm me if you are located at eu sc nl - i want to duel you and check the build ! :)
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Apr 11 2014 02:55pm
Quote (GMkasparov @ Apr 11 2014 10:38pm)
who is he? sininetraktor? anyways - pm me if you are located at eu sc nl - i want to duel you and check the build ! :)


yea sininetraktor. we are still scl so you needa wait a month^^
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