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Aug 18 2009 09:46pm
i believe that is the case
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Aug 18 2009 09:48pm
Quote (banemind @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 08:46pm)
no it has to be perf to get 88 def.

when upping from basic to 2nd level glove the def is random between a certain amount same with 2nd level to the 3rd level max can be 88 you might have perf ed but its always just random


so you're disagreeing with him?

it HAS to be 56 def on first up to have a CHANCE at 88?
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Aug 18 2009 09:50pm
Quote (banemind @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 09:46pm)
no it has to be perf to get 88 def.

when upping from basic to 2nd level glove the def is random between a certain amount same with 2nd level to the 3rd level max can be 88 you might have perf ed but its always just random


I'm not following your second thought. In one breath you are saying the gloves have to be perf on first up.. in the second breath you say that the upgrade from exceptional -> elite is a random roll as well. So they do not need to be perfect then.

Not flaming just trying to figure it out.
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Aug 18 2009 09:55pm
can anyone else confirm?
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Aug 18 2009 09:58pm
Quote (Act1 @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 11:55pm)
can anyone else confirm?


First roll doesn't matter as everytime you re-roll it gives you a new base defence.

100% positive on that.
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Aug 18 2009 10:19pm
Quote (Psychosis @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 08:58pm)
First roll doesn't matter as everytime you re-roll it gives you a new base defence.

100% positive on that.


ok thanks.

i'll just keep note when i start upping my bloodfists/magefists

will see if i get any 88 defs when the 1st roll isn't perf :)
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Oct 16 2009 09:18pm
i upp my 20% ed bloodfist, now is 53def, is max?
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Oct 16 2009 09:19pm
Quote (stonewall_jackson @ Sat, Oct 17 2009, 03:18am)
i upp my 20% ed bloodfist, now is 53def, is max?


eh

This post was edited by HelloOperator on Oct 16 2009 09:19pm
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Oct 16 2009 10:07pm
From the lack of answer i dont think anyone knows
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Quote (skarb16 @ Sat, 17 Oct 2009, 06:07)
From the lack of answer i dont think anyone knows

I do, but since people could just look it up in my notes, I won't tell.
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