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Feb 25 2024 03:28am
Quote (Waterfront @ Feb 25 2024 02:15am)
You should ignore both my posts above where I casually remove affixes to reduce level requirement.

Read this instead: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30598890


this is exactly the point where something doesnt add up to me: Quorra's formula for the level req is
rlvl_affix + 10 + 3*N
to my knowledge the rlvl_affix is the rlvl of the highest affix (i.e. 0.75*affix level) and N the number of affixes (i.e. 1-4)
OP's amulet has 2 skills (alvl 90), 6 ll (alvl 85) and two affixes with low alvl. so the formula should yield
90*0.75 + 10 + 3*4 = 89
i dont know why the amulet has a rlvl of 95...
can you help out?
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Feb 25 2024 04:03am
Perhaps in this case Arreat Summit is wrong? It was riddled with mistakes in the past, and might still be.

Read the last paragraph in the amulet section of the guide: 73+10+3*4=95

There are (or were) cases when the formula would still break.
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Feb 25 2024 08:03am
Quote (Waterfront @ Feb 25 2024 11:03am)
Perhaps in this case Arreat Summit is wrong? It was riddled with mistakes in the past, and might still be.

Read the last paragraph in the amulet section of the guide: 73+10+3*4=95

There are (or were) cases when the formula would still break.


Quote (Waterfront @ Feb 25 2024 12:13pm)


so we are talking about bad coding here. tyvm for pointing out, i can sleep in peace now :)
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Feb 25 2024 09:02am
I had a look at an outdated MagicSuffix.txt. Required level for "of the Lamprey" for amulets is 73.

I would say the Arreat Summit generalisation that you can multiply by 0.75 is wrong.
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Feb 25 2024 10:37am
In response to Post #4:

I do not understand why 3ll is max on a 89rlvl amulet.

Required level for "of the Locust" (4-5ll) for amulets is 57 according to the outdated MagicSuffix.txt I'm looking at.

What causes the limit?

Appreciate any insight.
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Feb 25 2024 11:12am
Edit option is gone so here is yet another consecutive post by yours truly.

57 in my previous post should have been 45.

I'll stop and wait for someone to clarify things.
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Feb 26 2024 11:38am
No one has posted, but I've got something to add.

I have now seen a 2sk/5ll/89rlvl caster amulet (with 4 random affixes). It is possible. (67>45: 67+10+3*4=89)

To summarise this mess:

I now explicitly remember the 75% Arreat Summit statement being wrong, it always has been, I just could not recall when I made my initial post or even after. Instead of questioning Arreat Summit, I questioned the rlvl formula, modifying N so it would equate to 95. Additionally I subtracted affixes on a whim. Considering I haven't crafted in a decade I probably should not have done that.

Lesson learnt. Don't use Arreat Summit, use MagicSuffix.txt and MagicPrefix.txt. Hopefully they are still 100% valid.

Arreat Summit easter egg, fitting for this situation: https://classic.battle.net/images/

My monologue ends here.
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