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Apr 26 2023 02:40am
Quote (ItsTheJits @ 25 Apr 2023 19:20)
Yes, however going along the same line of logic, the zon couldn’t beat the smiter(same game) either. Is it BM for the smiter to have max block? Should they lower their block chance to be GM? They also had issues against a Javazon with DAE and MB. Does the javazon have to put on a different shield to be GM?

I’ve looked at other GM guides (older however) and there’s never any rules on block percentage in the class specific section. Im not trying to argue to don’t mistake my questioning as such, just trying to learn.


If a class can't beat another class in any situation, then there is no point in dueling.

But as for that specific case: I don't think a smiter can beat a bowazon without mana potions.

Second case: usually lightning fury amazons are not a problem because you just add absorption gear until it is nearly fair (thundergod's, then wisp, then a Lo rune in armor, etc.).

I would ignore any rules that limit block % because I am not going to respec my character just to duel some "professional diablo 2 player" on the internet.

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D2A rule set

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This post was edited by DCLFaN on Apr 26 2023 02:59am
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Quote (Soppamies @ Apr 26 2023 12:25am)
Max Block is not BM, anyway if you are playing pub PvP why do you care so much ? If you want play GM PvP you can check some priv duels at PvP section i think.


Just trying to be nice I guess lol.
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Quote (Virtuous @ Apr 26 2023 04:40am)
If a class can't beat another class in any situation, then there is no point in dueling.

But as for that specific case: I don't think a smiter can beat a bowazon without mana potions.

Second case: usually lightning fury amazons are not a problem because you just add absorption gear until it is nearly fair (thundergod's, then wisp, then a Lo rune in armor, etc.).

I would ignore any rules that limit block % because I am not going to respec my character just to duel some "professional diablo 2 player" on the internet.


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Thank y’all very much I looked up that rule set. I wouldn’t consider their rules GM just a dueling league with a ladder ranked system. I’m fine with GM rules like sorb restrictions, no pots, etc his no MB rule seemed strange.

However I did find it.

Druids can only have 30% block against barbs in a 1v1 in this rule set. This is prob where he got this misconception. The block restriction is only in BvD.

I wouldn’t call that a GM/BM rule tho lol.

Again thank you very much everyone.
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Quote (ItsTheJits @ Apr 26 2023 12:51pm)
Thank y’all very much I looked up that rule set. I wouldn’t consider their rules GM just a dueling league with a ladder ranked system. I’m fine with GM rules like sorb restrictions, no pots, etc his no MB rule seemed strange.

However I did find it.

Druids can only have 30% block against barbs in a 1v1 in this rule set. This is prob where he got this misconception. The block restriction is only in BvD.

I wouldn’t call that a GM/BM rule tho lol.

Again thank you very much everyone.


w/e you consider it's the rule set being used by most of gm players in EU + NA, so that's exactly what u were looking for.
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Quote (ItsTheJits @ Apr 24 2023 08:41am)
Been dueling recently in pubs and was curious about GM rules? I’d like to adhere to them as much as possible, someone told me max block on a Druid(I was playing a raven druid) is BM and another person told me more than 1 point in plague javelin is BM as well.
I learned that full stack zoo on druid is BM so was just wondering if there was anything else I should know, thank you!


TBH: Max block on druid being bm? Unless something radically changed in D2R... that sounds like bs lol. Also people cry about poison, it isn't really BM, people just don't understand how to resist it. I'm assuming this is pub dueling.

Also I'd like to point out that a lot of the "bm" rules are antiquated and were put in place during the early patches of Diablo 2 and I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into them unless it is obvious .

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Quote (DCLFaN @ Apr 26 2023 11:05am)
w/e you consider it's the rule set being used by most of gm players in EU + NA, so that's exactly what u were looking for.


Right, however there no block restriction on a Druid vs a bowa zon he stated that max block on Druid was flat out BM. Based on the rules set you show me the only block restriction on Druid is vs Barb, in which it’s capped at 30%
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Quote (Mewi @ Apr 26 2023 12:16pm)
TBH: Max block on druid being bm? Unless something radically changed in D2R... that sounds like bs lol. Also people cry about poison, it isn't really BM, people just don't understand how to resist it. I'm assuming this is pub dueling.


Yea I wasn’t sure so I was just wanting to double check. Something about Druids being to Tanky with max block? But dude popped my oak in like 2 Multis so I wasn’t getting the bonus from that very much lol
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Right, however there no block restriction on a Druid vs a bowa zon he stated that max block on Druid was flat out BM. Based on the rules set you show me the only block restriction on Druid is vs Barb, in which it’s capped at 30%


Sounds like for bad barb players.
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Apr 26 2023 10:22am
Quote (Mewi @ Apr 26 2023 12:20pm)
Sounds like for bad barb players.


That’s for the D2A rule set, I guess it’s a PvP discord with rankings or something idk. But that’s one of their rules. I’m a casual so I’m sure they know better than me, but I was dueling in a Pub so lol
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