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Nov 4 2022 08:13pm
Who’s loving the Plague claw? Especially 2/3 LS ones?
Or are some of you sticking to 5 or 6 skill Greater Talons?

Also what are you Sin players doing with your remainder points now that we only have to max 3 skills for LS?
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Nov 6 2022 11:39pm
Quote (playlist @ 5 Nov 2022 02:13)
Who’s loving the Plague claw? Especially 2/3 LS ones?


Nobody. It's pointless in claws. In order for LR to proc/be triggered, you need to get hit. So it's a merc weapon at best - if you get hit as an assasin you're either doing it wrong (trap assassins aren't tanky) or you're playing the ww spec (in which case that's the wrong weapon). Some people use a5 barb mercs with dual plague swords.
The rest of the stats on that runeword are useless for a trapassin. You're not hitting with the claw, so you're not freezing targets or whatever and -poison does nothing for you.

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Or are some of you sticking to 5 or 6 skill Greater Talons?


2 * 6 are gg, if you can shop them. Pray for sockets at larzuk.
Sadly, even if you get 2 * 2 sox 6 LS claws, lightning facets still won't work for your traps - I can only wonder if that will be fixed in 2042, maybe. Probabiy not.

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Also what are you Sin players doing with your remainder points now that we only have to max 3 skills for LS?


Mine (pvm) looks like this.

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-2/skill-calc/assassin/pqswyYwXsXqXpXcedgkf

...and I uses a different char (kicksin) for ubers.

4 LS , 1 DS, mind blast and/or cloak of shadows if anything gets close.
Fire blast and merc if they're lightning immune.
Mind blast spam and merc if they're immune to both lightning and fire and there are no corpses to explode.
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Nov 7 2022 12:53am
Quote (mananvar @ Nov 7 2022 04:39pm)
Nobody. It's pointless in claws. In order for LR to proc/be triggered, you need to get hit. So it's a merc weapon at best - if you get hit as an assasin you're either doing it wrong (trap assassins aren't tanky) or you're playing the ww spec (in which case that's the wrong weapon). Some people use a5 barb mercs with dual plague swords.
The rest of the stats on that runeword are useless for a trapassin. You're not hitting with the claw, so you're not freezing targets or whatever and -poison does nothing for you.



2 * 6 are gg, if you can shop them. Pray for sockets at larzuk.
Sadly, even if you get 2 * 2 sox 6 LS claws, lightning facets still won't work for your traps - I can only wonder if that will be fixed in 2042, maybe. Probabiy not.



Mine (pvm) looks like this.

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-2/skill-calc/assassin/pqswyYwXsXqXpXcedgkf

...and I uses a different char (kicksin) for ubers.

4 LS , 1 DS, mind blast and/or cloak of shadows if anything gets close.
Fire blast and merc if they're lightning immune.
Mind blast spam and merc if they're immune to both lightning and fire and there are no corpses to explode.


Thanks, def have given me a new perspective :)

I've been using Plague Claw and I'm pretty tanky because I use Phoenix shield and Fade, my resistances are maxed and my DR is 48%. I maxed out my Shadow Master, so my merc and SM tank for me while I cast traps and sometimes get hit by mobs but barely take any dmg.

Also, no Fade for PVM?? What's your rationale?
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Thanks, def have given me a new perspective :)

I've been using Plague Claw and I'm pretty tanky because I use Phoenix shield and Fade, my resistances are maxed and my DR is 48%. I maxed out my Shadow Master, so my merc and SM tank for me while I cast traps and sometimes get hit by mobs but barely take any dmg.

Also, no Fade for PVM?? What's your rationale?


Plague does nothing for your traps when used on the sin.
Phoenix shield does nothing for your traps.

They're utterly pointless for a trap sin, even dual spirit is better than that. Redemption would consume the corpses you need for death sentry.

You can use them, you can use whatever, a naked assassin can do some hell runs, but it doesn't help.

Fade is largely useless for me because I use BoS anyway for trap laying speed and resists are maxed anyway, but you can spend one point (+skills) on Fade if you feel you need it. The DR on it would be nice, but a trap sin isn't supposed to get hit.

Shadow master can cast traps, thus overriding my traps, so no.
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Nov 7 2022 10:31am
dual plague is best for hybrid sin
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Nov 7 2022 10:37am
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dual plague is best for hybrid sin



Not even remotely

Fury is better than plague.

For pvm, skill distribution has remained completely unchanged.

You still max death sentry. You still max LS and synergies. You still dump the rest of your points into fire blast.

This is how little blizzard knows about their game. They make a change geared towards pvm, and the change has no effect on pvm.
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Nov 7 2022 10:41am
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Not even remotely

Fury is better than plague.

For pvm, skill distribution has remained completely unchanged.

You still max death sentry. You still max LS and synergies. You still dump the rest of your points into fire blast.

This is how little blizzard knows about their game. They make a change geared towards pvm, and the change has no effect on pvm.


I had last season a hybrid sin for Pvm in hardcore
Plague was the Best choice, +10 ls , and if you have an other usefull skill on it like weapon block then jackpot. I had 40k dmg tiger strike with dual plague and 7k trap
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Nov 7 2022 10:42am
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I had last season a hybrid sin for Pvm in hardcore
Plague was the Best choice, +10 ls , and if you have an other usefull skill on it like weapon block then jackpot. I had 40k dmg tiger strike with dual plague and 7k trap



That isn’t a hybrid sin, as defined for the past 18 years. That’s a martial arts sin that uses traps. Very different.
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Nov 7 2022 10:43am
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That isn’t a hybrid sin, as defined for the past 18 years. That’s a martial arts sin that uses traps. Very different.


its pvm hybrid, sorry

I should have phrased it more clearly
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Nov 7 2022 10:45am
Quote (balint0203 @ Nov 7 2022 10:43am)
its pvm hybrid, sorry

I should have phrased it more clearly



It’s not a pvm hybrid

It’s a tiger strike sin
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