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Jan 12 2022 08:20pm
so im new to playing ww barb and just started to gear him up

my question would be do i need any ias on other items to hit the fastest ww speed when im using 2 botw ba as weapons?

i want to socket my arreats with a 40ed jool but dont know if i should better equip it with a 15/xx or even a shael rune?

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Jan 12 2022 08:22pm
Ias on other items does not affect WW

Each Weappm needs at least -34 ias To reach max ww speed, again, only on the weapon.

For reference, phase blade has a base of -30ias, so it only needs 4ias on weapon to reach max WW speed

Berserker axe has base of 0 ias. So it needs 34 is on weapon to reach max WW speed.

Again, this must be done on each weapon.
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Jan 12 2022 08:23pm
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Ias on other items does not affect WW

Each Weappm needs at least -34 ias To reach max ww speed, again, only on the weapon.

For reference, phase blade has a base of -30ias, so it only needs 4ias on weapon to reach max WW speed

Berserker axe has base of 0 ias. So it needs 34 is on weapon to reach max WW speed.

Again, this must be done on each weapon.


alright, so having a botd in an ba what gives 60ias im completely fine and will hit max speed?

thanks for the fast help :)
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Jan 12 2022 08:24pm
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alright, so having a botd in an ba what gives 60ias im completely fine and will hit max speed?

thanks for the fast help :)



Yep. But botd isn’t particularly good for WW.

Grief PB for pvm or grief berserker axe for pvp are both substantionally better for WW
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Jan 12 2022 08:28pm
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Yep. But botd isn’t particularly good for WW.

Grief PB for pvm or grief berserker axe for pvp are both substantionally better for WW


oh i see

i already have a 396-15 eth ba so i would like to keep this one for now :) i hope its not too bad for pvm :D

so as second weapon i should go for grief you say? what about beast?
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Jan 12 2022 08:29pm
Quote (Raser @ Jan 12 2022 08:28pm)
oh i see

i already have a 396-15 eth ba so i would like to keep this one for now :) i hope its not too bad for pvm :D

so as second weapon i should go for grief you say? what about beast?



Pvp or pvm?


For pvm, you always want your weapons to be indestructible. Or you will be spending a ton of time repairing them, and even more gold. You will burn through gold faster than you can get it.

For pvp, by far the best setup is grief + beast zerker axe


For pvm, it’s grief + grief Pb. And it isn’t anywhere close
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Jan 12 2022 08:32pm
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Pvp or pvm?


For pvm, you always want your weapons to be indestructible. Or you will be spending a ton of time repairing them, and even more gold. You will burn through gold faster than you can get it.

For pvp, by far the best setup is grief + beast zerker axe


For pvm, it’s grief + grief Pb. And it isn’t anywhere close


im just doing pvm for now

would be grief + botd also good for a start? how much better are 2 griefs compared to this setup? i rolled a good botd and wanted to use it for now, also im using verdungo instead of soe so i believed i need a bit more ll
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Quote (Raser @ Jan 12 2022 08:32pm)
im just doing pvm for now

would be grief + botd also good for a start? how much better are 2 griefs compared to this setup? i rolled a good botd and wanted to use it for now, also im using verdungo instead of soe so i believed i need a bit more ll



The problem is that you would need to max both axe mastery and sword mastery. Which unless you are 99, you really don’t have the points for.

If I were you, I would look at this as you paid a little bit to learn a valuable lesson. Take the loss and buy 2x grief PBS. They literally can have the lowest amount of ias on them, along with the lowest amount of damahe on them as possible, and still be better then botd, by quite abit.

You can get 2x mid range Grief PBS, something like 30ias/375 damage, for cheap
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Jan 12 2022 08:39pm
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The problem is that you would need to max both axe mastery and sword mastery. Which unless you are 99, you really don’t have the points for.

If I were you, I would look at this as you paid a little bit to learn a valuable lesson. Take the loss and buy 2x grief PBS. They literally can have the lowest amount of ias on them, along with the lowest amount of damahe on them as possible, and still be better then botd, by quite abit.

You can get 2x mid range Grief PBS, something like 30ias/375 damage, for cheap


and what about a grief in a ba with a 34 ias roll?
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Jan 12 2022 08:39pm
I just saw your SoE vs dungos comment as well

Literally the worst SoE is better than the best dungos for pvm
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