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Dec 25 2021 07:28pm
Some of you may have seen my previous posts. Thanks to everyone who commented, I found out my preferred vita setups and I now have respeced to ES to try it too, with this exact build : https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/6y010680#5

I was worried the dmg would be really bad, but althought its slowleer than pure vita, it's still decent, and I feel tankier.

The only issue is the following : I noticed that sometimes ES just "disappear" sometimes during chaos runs (maybe due to mana burn or just taking too much damage by telestomping too much?) and that suddenly I need to be very careful, and I even died once.

Mind you this is with 2.8k mana, 1.2 lifes, 75 all res, 117fcr / 86fhr, 5 hard point (19 total) in warmth and max telekinesis, level 22 ES.

Does anyone know why this would happen?

This post was edited by ElSocialist on Dec 25 2021 07:30pm
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Dec 25 2021 08:13pm
mana broke or duration expired
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Dec 25 2021 08:14pm
Quote (marvel. @ Dec 25 2021 09:13pm)
mana broke or duration expired


Definitely not duration
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Dec 25 2021 08:24pm
yeah tele into a mob with mana burn and you can expect a swift death playing pure es sorc ^_^
unless you can juv and recast es before your life drops to 0 :thumbsup:
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Dec 25 2021 08:27pm
Quote (NiRjAn @ Dec 25 2021 09:24pm)
yeah tele into a mob with mana burn and you can expect a swift death playing pure es sorc ^_^
unless you can juv and recast es before your life drops to 0 :thumbsup:


so basically after testing it, ES is useless in PVM if its main purpose (being tankier than vita by sacrificing dmg to telestomp more) doesn't work heh?

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Dec 25 2021 11:51pm
I personally prefer Vita sorcs for PvM because if ES does go down, you're screwed.

Stormshield with max block and vita sorc is great for being tanky. tele into a mob, and what you're not blocking, you can tank. if you have max fhr, its not hard to tele out
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Quote (ElSocialist @ Dec 25 2021 08:27pm)
so basically after testing it, ES is useless in PVM if its main purpose (being tankier than vita by sacrificing dmg to telestomp more) doesn't work heh?


Never es for pvm its better in pvp
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Dec 26 2021 12:03am
es/nova sorc is a beast pvm!
but still mana burn = dead
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Quote (ElSocialist @ Dec 26 2021 03:27am)
ES is useless in PVM


You pretty much summarize ES pretty well.

ES is tankier most of the time, then you found a extremely common mana burn and your tanky sorc is way more fragile than any vita sorc, in the end you die more often.
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Dec 26 2021 12:44pm
Mana burn > ES

for pvp u can use ES
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