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Dec 11 2021 11:39am
I am thinking of using full tals set with storm shield on a key farming sorc for D2R hardcore.

What spec would be best for this? And is full tals ss a safe option? I have lost several sorc but never used full tals.

Want a strong sorc with ability to kill countress, summoner, etc
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Dec 11 2021 12:09pm
A guide to never die with a sorc:

- Get 105fcr to not get caught teleporting.
- Get 2500+ hp to not get one shot by a nasty conviction or extra strong might unexpected critc.
- Get max resist.
- Get a good damage to kill before things get nasty.

Bonus: since spirit give 55fhr, if you don't have more fhr sources add a small charm to get the 60fhr breakpoint.

If you die with a sorc like that is 100% your fault, either you get lazy/overconfident or get distracted and missjudge one of the few dangerous situations.

Full tal with spirit give you all of those kinda easy (damage is borderline good, for hp some hp in charms are necessary, but not a crazy good inventory, just some random 20-30 skillers or random 15 life smc).

Full tal is designed for hybrid builds better like FO/FB it works well with pure blizz too tho, for lightning is awkward when you need to give up your two rings for fcr instead of more damage SoJ.
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Dec 11 2021 12:12pm
Not possible. Even with a super safe build, you can still die. You have to pay attention and not teleport randomly or you'll die sooner or later.
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Dec 11 2021 12:40pm
Thank you for the info.

So looks like full tals with a spirit it is. With FO/fireball build

Unless someone has any better builds?
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Dec 12 2021 02:20am
If magic find % helps find Keys, then I would go

Shako PTopaz
Ist'd Occy
Tals Armor PTopaz
Tals Ammy
Tals Belt 15% MF
35 FCR Spirit Monarch
Magefists
30% Nagel
20dex raven frost (for cannot be frozen, cold absorb 20% and +20 dex to help max block)
40-50% MF War Travs

With this set up you'll reach exactly 105 FCR

switch:
cta/rand bo monarch

storch/anni
3x cold lifers with 12% FHR *to hit 86%FHR Break point*
gheeds
3x cold lifers (for damage+life)
16x magic find/single res small charms (you'll need fire res and cold res - light res should be maxed or around 70%)


my character with a 5 bo CTA and this set up @ lvl 82 hits:


  • 105 FCR
  • 86 FHR
  • 500% + MF
  • About 2,000 life & 1,000 mana *with energy shield*
  • 10,000ish Blizzard Damage (not sure as I dont have s. torch or anni yet)
  • 5,000 Ice Blast damage *again, estimate as i dont have torch/anni*
  • Max light res
  • 68% Cold Res
  • 39% Fire Res
  • Have inferno strides for Fire Res if nec.
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Dec 12 2021 03:14am
Quote (GIGACUCK @ Dec 12 2021 09:20am)
If magic find % helps find Keys, then I would go


It does not.

Occy in hc is a bit gamble, plus full tal is better than 3 piece tal.
Max bock is a trap and ES is not that useful if one point wonder and a bigger trap if max es and high mana.
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Dec 12 2021 03:56am
Quote (Titus1986 @ Dec 11 2021 07:09pm)
A guide to never die with a sorc:

- Get 105fcr to not get caught teleporting.
- Get 2500+ hp to not get one shot by a nasty conviction or extra strong might unexpected critc.
- Get max resist.
- Get a good damage to kill before things get nasty.

Bonus: since spirit give 55fhr, if you don't have more fhr sources add a small charm to get the 60fhr breakpoint.

If you die with a sorc like that is 100% your fault, either you get lazy/overconfident or get distracted and missjudge one of the few dangerous situations.

Full tal with spirit give you all of those kinda easy (damage is borderline good, for hp some hp in charms are necessary, but not a crazy good inventory, just some random 20-30 skillers or random 15 life smc).

Full tal is designed for hybrid builds better like FO/FB it works well with pure blizz too tho, for lightning is awkward when you need to give up your two rings for fcr instead of more damage SoJ.


this is the best answer as i play just this setup right now in hardcore with about 2,3k life. merc also has infinity and i play as light. it's smooth.

keep in mind nobody who has posted here actually plays hardcore. check their previous topics/ posts. it doesn't mean the people are wrong, but it's in indicator that they've no clue wat they're talkin about.

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Dec 12 2021 07:04am
Quote (Titus1986 @ Dec 11 2021 07:09pm)
A guide to never die with a sorc:

- Get 105fcr to not get caught teleporting.
- Get 2500+ hp to not get one shot by a nasty conviction or extra strong might unexpected critc.
- Get max resist.
- Get a good damage to kill before things get nasty.

Bonus: since spirit give 55fhr, if you don't have more fhr sources add a small charm to get the 60fhr breakpoint.

If you die with a sorc like that is 100% your fault, either you get lazy/overconfident or get distracted and missjudge one of the few dangerous situations.

Full tal with spirit give you all of those kinda easy (damage is borderline good, for hp some hp in charms are necessary, but not a crazy good inventory, just some random 20-30 skillers or random 15 life smc).

Full tal is designed for hybrid builds better like FO/FB it works well with pure blizz too tho, for lightning is awkward when you need to give up your two rings for fcr instead of more damage SoJ.


86fhr + tgs (D2R), souls seem to have bugged dmg. Also put on a dwarfstar if you venture into chaos sanctuary too often. Again, related to D2R, you might die while spawning to a waypoint during the loading screen. Never take waypoints you're nit sure they are safw, teleport there.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Dec 12 2021 07:08am
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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 12 2021 02:04pm)
86fhr + tgs, souls seem to have bugged dmg.


Yes, tgod is great on full tal.

Is also great againts the zero souls you will fight with a key farming sorc.
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Quote (Titus1986 @ Dec 12 2021 02:07pm)
Yes, tgod is great on full tal.

Is also great againts the zero souls you will fight with a key farming sorc.


Missed the key farming bid, No need for ttgs then.
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