Now that people are starting to build their pvp chars, i'd like to discuss how you are going to build your svs sorc and how you'd like to duel like?
Builds are completely different with and without rules, to better plan ahead it would be good to know how the majority wants to play.

No rules at all : Unlimited resistances and repl life. There is no need for fhr with high cr and maximum res reaching 90-95. You just want stats, resists and high repl on your sorceress.
Cap resistances and replenish life: 15 repl for non es and 0 repl for es sorcs. Maximum fr/lr for sorc = 75 (except lightning sorc). CR values are capped at around 170-200.

It's very hard to be competitive in both worlds with a single sorceress, so people are probably going to build two?

What are your thoughts on this?

Capping resists is racist because it discriminates against disadvantaged poor people

Capping replenish life is good because it fights the fascist botters

Mirror builds or no rules is more fair than the racist rules that Europe plays with

no rulz is no rulz, why rep life limited at 15 or 0 for es oO

i am an east player
we generally never dueled with any real set of rules
it was pretty much a simple rule set of

only mana potions aloud and not aloud to go to town or use shrines..

i have only seen the limitation of gear and items on eurp or in tournaments on expansion

i personally do not build my chars with limitations

i myself do not use something like hawkmail or a 3 socket shield

but i do not mind if another player uses hawk a 3 socket shield or hotspurs or 1000 replenish
or really any other item at that mater against me

to tip the scale slightly further... i think that the game is for the most part balanced
i think that adding rules only makes the game unbalanced and only tips the scale into
anothers favor

Since we're talking about SvS, can you, svs pros, answer me couple questions?

As Jvun7 said, in east I remember rules being only mana potions allowed and can't go town, shrines, wp, leave blood moor. No gear limitations.

In this scenario, how good fireball sorcs can be? I remember Fball sorcs being better for SvS but worst for dueling other classes.

Should I go pure vita or energy shield? I know with ES u lose blizzard dmg but can actually survive dmg and not being one shot in situations where pure vita usually is.

Was thinking about going fireball/energy shield... but apparently with pure vita blizz/fball builds it's just easier to abuse stuff like stacking resists + stacking replenish life and shit.. cuz u have more gear flexibility.
For example; can't use lovely 3 socket shields if i wanna go 105% fcr build (which is sweet for fireball sorcs).

hehe

This post was edited by terriblenerd on Nov 20 2021 09:23pm

Sounds like something we can all agree on!



Did you have SvS tournaments at East? My biggest fear with uncapped res and replenish life is that duels will end in excessive defensive behaviour. Especially when there is a few k fgs pricepool.
Got Hit? Teleport away a minute to repl, fight, repeat for 30 minutes until someone is pissed off.

To me GM eu rules were perfectly balanced and indeed are preventing "afk repl" duelers

I dont see any valid point against the old ruleset

EDITING IN I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS WAS THE SHORT MANNERED VERSION

i spent a few hours writing this believe it or not it gets sooo long i have to delete
like... i cant send that; i need to attempt to be brief

#1 got hit? teleport away a minute to repl
while eurp might have limited players from using certain items and rules

east has encouraged people to stay engaged; what i mean is i have Never;ever;ever
seen a sorceress teliport away from me for a peroid of time in an attempt to heal from replenish
but if he did... that would be perfectly fine with me id either chase him and kill him or wait for his return
depends what type of mood i am in
*as well you know im bigggg replenish sorceress like 90 replenish style I've never even had a sorc complain that i was " running away to replenish "
mainly because my life is always full and because of this i am the aggressor which is why; i lack this " defensive style " you are describing
if 2 newbies had my build and fought each other... maybe i could see your concern

i mean its not like i would care or anything since i likely have just as much replenish as him and all hes going to be doing is healing me anyways

30 minute svs fights sounds more like warmth sorceress or just sorceress in general that are low on mana and scared to die has nothing to do with rep

id imagine with rules in place with low cr and low replenish when the sorceress get low on mana they " go into defensive mode "

im not sure what an " afk repl " dueler is but show me this bully i drown him in my mana pool


man yall shoulda saw the crazy shit i deleted that shit was super wild i think ill send this one tho:P

but at the end of the day i think alot of these " strats " that are banned are ineffective vs me
and that normally no offense to anyone but normally average or limited players attempt to " limit "
something because they believe it is op, when in fact if the shoe was on the other foot they would
still lose

DAMN I CANT STOP TYPING 1 MORE THING BEFORE I FORGETTTTXDDD

i think the " merge " may not be as realistic as thought maybe and what i mean is i think it is unlikely that often
the sorceress is going to want to fight away from home; meaning eurp sorceress lag on america servers; america sorceress
lag on eurp servers; so will there really be a merge?

This post was edited by Jvun7 on Nov 25 2021 11:09pm

Dude with 90repl sorc doesnt see the problem with uncapped repl. Color me surprised.