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Sep 5 2023 01:03pm
I wanna try a phase blade with shaels to reach 4 fpa just to proc crushing blow real fast,
and i was wondering what shield i should use
Now, i know damage sucks, but nevertherless i wanna try it.
The question is good also for someone who wants to use another 1 handed weap, like grief.

Since faster block rate is bad on bears and that its preferable not to block, i came up with 3 possible shields.
The build is 20 werebear/maul/fire claws/HotW, rest in lycan.
(the purpose of fireclaws here is not as much fire damage as att. rating).

spirit: I dont care about the fcr, but it has no + chance to block and nice mods.
black oak luna: Has no +chance to block also, but a boost to dex, wich is nice for Ar, but adds about 10 % CTB compared to spirit monarch.
+a very nice faster block rate: Boosts the breakpoint about 5 lvl! +1 socket in the shield
Lance guard: I see many ppl recommanding that shield for the +deadly strike, but since my weap purpose is mainly to proc CB, im not tempted that much by that one. (1 socket in the shield)
Dragon shield: (My last taught). It gives the nice holy fire aura wich will boost my fireclaw and also my AR :). No +chance to block..nice.
...lolz?: ( the 3 os shield base that has the lowest CTB is....tadam: the kite shield. :)


tanks for sharing opinions.

This post was edited by dombri on Sep 5 2023 01:08pm
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Sep 5 2023 04:20pm
maybe phoenix for -fr and high physical dmg multiplier (so you get dmg besides fire)?
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Sep 5 2023 04:51pm
Quote (dombri @ Sep 5 2023 03:03pm)
I wanna try a phase blade with shaels to reach 4 fpa just to proc crushing blow real fast,
and i was wondering what shield i should use
Now, i know damage sucks, but nevertherless i wanna try it.
The question is good also for someone who wants to use another 1 handed weap, like grief.

Since faster block rate is bad on bears and that its preferable not to block, i came up with 3 possible shields.
The build is 20 werebear/maul/fire claws/HotW, rest in lycan.
(the purpose of fireclaws here is not as much fire damage as att. rating).

spirit: I dont care about the fcr, but it has no + chance to block and nice mods.
black oak luna: Has no +chance to block also, but a boost to dex, wich is nice for Ar, but adds about 10 % CTB compared to spirit monarch.
+a very nice faster block rate: Boosts the breakpoint about 5 lvl! +1 socket in the shield
Lance guard: I see many ppl recommanding that shield for the +deadly strike, but since my weap purpose is mainly to proc CB, im not tempted that much by that one. (1 socket in the shield)
Dragon shield: (My last taught). It gives the nice holy fire aura wich will boost my fireclaw and also my AR :). No +chance to block..nice.
...lolz?: ( the 3 os shield base that has the lowest CTB is....tadam: the kite shield. :)


tanks for sharing opinions.


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Sep 5 2023 06:12pm
Quote (PiXi31415 @ 5 Sep 2023 18:20)
maybe phoenix for -fr and high physical dmg multiplier (so you get dmg besides fire)?


since im more melee and not relying on fire damgage from say, armageddon, its not good because the firestorm casts so often that it interrupts my fireclaws/maul attacks.
Quote (Tarisus @ 5 Sep 2023 18:51)
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why?
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Quote (dombri @ Sep 5 2023 08:12pm)
since im more melee and not relying on fire damgage from say, armageddon, its not good because the firestorm casts so often that it interrupts my fireclaws/maul attacks.

why?


Dragon shield gives holy fire but you have no way of boosting its aura damage so it’s low damage add on. Deadly strike from a white phase blade adds bad damage. Black oak is okay.

Spirit gives you 2 to all skills which means you can it Lycanthropy for extra HP, Bear form for extra defense. FHR from it is really nice too because Bears have bad FHR. Generally speaking, Mana leech doesn’t really work because of low physical damage so having extra mana from spirit helps since mana regen is based on maximum mana. I use Spirit on my budget zealot and he has 0 mana leech, no mana issues. Last but least FCR is very nice to resummmon Pets and Spirits.

Also, Most Fire non immunes are super easy to kill and nearly all physical immunes have 0 Gire resistance in hell. If a monster is immune to fire damage, most of your physical comes from your Merc, opening wounds, Venom, and Crushing Blow(Its amazing). The Phase Blade Bear I made can clear Chaos with those damage on Players 3 decently and completely wrecks Act 5.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Sep 5 2023 06:22pm
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Thanks for the detail inputs

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Dragon shield gives holy fire but you have no way of boosting its aura damage so it’s low damage add on. Deadly strike from a white phase blade adds bad damage. Black oak is okay.

Spirit gives you 2 to all skills which means you can it Lycanthropy for extra HP, Bear form for extra defense. FHR from it is really nice too because Bears have bad FHR. Generally speaking, Mana leech doesn’t really work because of low physical damage so having extra mana from spirit helps since mana regen is based on maximum mana. I use Spirit on my budget zealot and he has 0 mana leech, no mana issues. Last but least FCR is very nice to resummmon Pets and Spirits.

Also, Most Fire non immunes are super easy to kill and nearly all physical immunes have 0 Gire resistance in hell. If a monster is immune to fire damage, most of your physical comes from your Merc, opening wounds, Venom, and Crushing Blow(Its amazing). The Phase Blade Bear I made can clear Chaos with those damage on Players 3 decently and completely wrecks Act 5.


this , from amazon basin made me think of dragon. Might still be a slow boost.:
"+% Fire Skill Damage is applied to skill damage before it's added to weapon dmage, then it's applied a second time to melee attacks."

I tend to agree on deadly strike from lance guard.

..got to check if i have someithig that gives damage goes to mana...might help.

My werebear has 2 types of gear. I did try ubers with it about 3-4 times and wasnt satisfied. The main weap is eTomb reaching 6 fpa and i taught of this PB to have on switch at the beginning and tomby for the finish.

-Fire immunes: So they have low physical resistance? Dang, i didnt know that. I always play with reapers toll on merc. Nice to know.

thanks again, going to bed now.

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Thanks for the detail inputs



this , from amazon basin made me think of dragon. Might still be a slow boost.:
"+% Fire Skill Damage is applied to skill damage before it's added to weapon dmage, then it's applied a second time to melee attacks."

I tend to agree on deadly strike from lance guard.

..got to check if i have someithig that gives damage goes to mana...might help.

My werebear has 2 types of gear. I did try ubers with it about 3-4 times and wasnt satisfied. The main weap is eTomb reaching 6 fpa and i taught of this PB to have on switch at the beginning and tomby for the finish.

-Fire immunes: So they have low physical resistance? Dang, i didnt know that. I always play with reapers toll on merc. Nice to know.

thanks again, going to bed now.


+Fire damage cannot be stacked very much with Druids unless you go Facets. The best weapon in Lod for a Bear is a Zod with 2 Shael runes because it lets you hit 5fpa. It’s the other way around, Ghosts and spirits and vampires that are Physical immune have 0 Fire resistance.

I actually just did Ubers with my Bear few days ago. The biggest problem was the fact that I had a shield. Since Bears are bad with block rate and faster hit recovery also sucks. Shields are not recommended in Ubers, and having higher Life prevents FHR from triggering. Generally, Ubers were meant for Wolf Fury or Fireclaw because Wolf has best FHR in game and Ribby is amazing.
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Sep 6 2023 12:26am
D2lod or d2r?

Anyway, fbr is not that bad on werebear, maby for pvm, but not for pvp.

Block also has next delay, u cannot be fbr'd more than each 10th frame. And u have a 4 frame attack. (you do not have a 4 frame FPA if d2r)
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Quote (gel87 @ 6 Sep 2023 02:26)
D2lod or d2r?

Anyway, fbr is not that bad on werebear, maby for pvm, but not for pvp.

Block also has next delay, u cannot be fbr'd more than each 10th frame. And u have a 4 frame attack. (you do not have a 4 frame FPA if d2r)


D2lod. PvM.
Next delay on fbr: Ok, so before i can block again, there is a delay, but i can perform another action faster , no?

Quote (Tarisus @ 5 Sep 2023 21:12)
+Fire damage cannot be stacked very much with Druids unless you go Facets. The best weapon in Lod for a Bear is a Zod with 2 Shael runes because it lets you hit 5fpa. It’s the other way around, Ghosts and spirits and vampires that are Physical immune have 0 Fire resistance.

I actually just did Ubers with my Bear few days ago. The biggest problem was the fact that I had a shield. Since Bears are bad with block rate and faster hit recovery also sucks. Shields are not recommended in Ubers, and having higher Life prevents FHR from triggering. Generally, Ubers were meant for Wolf Fury or Fireclaw because Wolf has best FHR in game and Ribby is amazing.


Etomb also here but with zod+2 ias jewels. Im reaching 6 fpa in normal play with 55 ias (ias guillaume, Loh, highlords)
I find 5fpa too contraining even with 2 shaels. It requires 70 off weap ias. (ik gloves+boots, noscoil, highlords, ias helm?).. option: Non eth tombreaver with 3 shaels, no ias needed: 5fpa.. Hits so fast, you have to repair often)
For my ubers set-up i, the last time, i used 2 angelic rings+amulet, guillaumes cham'd, dracs, goblin toes, wilhelm's pride battle belt for the dual leach, coh, swap cta, prebuf: demon limb+ treachery.
I did try it a couple of years ago with Azurwrath + rattle cage (not my idea, but i thnk it was a success :) ). the sanctuary aura is amazing to repluse those mana draining ghosts vs baal.
Fury: yes, much easier with all the AR boosts.


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Sep 6 2023 08:58am
Quote (dombri @ Sep 6 2023 10:38am)
D2lod. PvM.
Next delay on fbr: Ok, so before i can block again, there is a delay, but i can perform another action faster , no?



Etomb also here but with zod+2 ias jewels. Im reaching 6 fpa in normal play with 55 ias (ias guillaume, Loh, highlords)
I find 5fpa too contraining even with 2 shaels. It requires 70 off weap ias. (ik gloves+boots, noscoil, highlords, ias helm?).. option: Non eth tombreaver with 3 shaels, no ias needed: 5fpa.. Hits so fast, you have to repair often)
For my ubers set-up i, the last time, i used 2 angelic rings+amulet, guillaumes cham'd, dracs, goblin toes, wilhelm's pride battle belt for the dual leach, coh, swap cta, prebuf: demon limb+ treachery.
I did try it a couple of years ago with Azurwrath + rattle cage (not my idea, but i thnk it was a success :) ). the sanctuary aura is amazing to repluse those mana draining ghosts vs baal.
Fury: yes, much easier with all the AR boosts.


Druid (Wolf)
FHR Frames
0% 7
9% 6
20% 5
42% 4
86% 3
280% 2

Druid (Bear)
FHR Frames
0% 13
5% 12
10% 11
16% 10
24% 9
37% 8
54% 7
86% 6
152% 5
360% 4


The game is self is run on 25 frames. And those are Bear and Wolf frames. In bold is Bear Block rate.

Druid (Wolf)
FBR Frames
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4
200% 3

Druid (Bear)
FBR Frames
0% 12
5% 11
10% 10
16% 9
27% 8
40% 7
65% 6
109% 5
223% 4


When you block, you lose 12 frames. 12/25 is nearly .5 second.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Sep 6 2023 09:07am
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