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Jan 8 2013 09:49pm
Quote (Brandon_Bishop @ Jan 9 2013 11:34am)
I understood every word you've said to me here and before, you don't need to apologize for English not being your first language. It's all good.

As far as the modding/being flagged thing; the ONLY mod I use in-game (and the only one I used in Torchlight 1) is the same one you use for potions; why? Because it should have been in the game in the first place. I don't sell those potions like you do, but I see it as a good idea that you are. You're helping others out by providing them with something that should be in the game regardless. The other mod or whatever you want to call it I've used it the Rapid Respec thing, which allowed me to jump to other tiers; or back tiers (to NG+, or back from NG+) on my characters to trade with others. I don't consider that cheating either; the things I found while playing those characters are legit; self-found by either me or my crew, and I have no issue with that.

Yes, they don't flag you (the respec potions), but just because something doesn't flag an individual doesn't mean it is, or isn't cheating. I understand what you're getting at here. I personally (and MOST others), feel that they should have been in the game to buy from the vendor for a price; or the current trainer should provide us the ability to do a full re-spec for a price. Why they didn't put that in this time around? I have no idea. Even on Xbox live; you can gift them to your friends on there at any point in time. You send them one; they send you one. That's how it works there; and I don't consider that cheating in any way. There is always a fine-line though, but this does not cross it.

The only thing I had a problem with was, the two of you making the bogus threads selling gold, when really you guys weren't; and teaming up against me for no apparent reason. Those were not friendly Private Messages, and that's not how I would conduct business around here.


oh owkie.. i don't know what inquisitious told you or pm you, all i know is he's also selling gold... and i also pm same message i sent to you "the one that u posted proof" hehe.. :) ... i honestly want to protect the fun in playing the game and hopefully even a tiny economy in TL2..

to be honest, i am really glad that there are new players around here.. 'coz TL2 is almost dead last time.. i believe only 2 who left which is trysaknot and me ... sadly others left already.. and there is a thread here i make about "please help TL2 alive" . . .

now at last, i can play TL2.. online again with lots of players.. but i wont really go to NG+4 "ghost town" ... :D
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Jan 8 2013 09:55pm
Well, it's all good from my view now. I haven't sold any gold in days now. I think people are eating up all the cheap gold from the others so I'm waiting until they get rid of theirs seems I can't possibly sell my gold for that low; so if you guys are afraid I'm selling for too low, don't be... I like FGs just as much as the next person, but I can't give stuff away for almost free.
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Jan 9 2013 11:44am
Quote (Brandon_Bishop @ Jan 8 2013 10:34pm)
I understood every word you've said to me here and before, you don't need to apologize for English not being your first language. It's all good.

As far as the modding/being flagged thing; the ONLY mod I use in-game (and the only one I used in Torchlight 1) is the same one you use for potions; why? Because it should have been in the game in the first place. I don't sell those potions like you do, but I see it as a good idea that you are. You're helping others out by providing them with something that should be in the game regardless. The other mod or whatever you want to call it I've used it the Rapid Respec thing, which allowed me to jump to other tiers; or back tiers (to NG+, or back from NG+) on my characters to trade with others. I don't consider that cheating either; the things I found while playing those characters are legit; self-found by either me or my crew, and I have no issue with that.

Yes, they don't flag you (the respec potions), but just because something doesn't flag an individual doesn't mean it is, or isn't cheating. I understand what you're getting at here. I personally (and MOST others), feel that they should have been in the game to buy from the vendor for a price; or the current trainer should provide us the ability to do a full re-spec for a price. Why they didn't put that in this time around? I have no idea. Even on Xbox live; you can gift them to your friends on there at any point in time. You send them one; they send you one. That's how it works there; and I don't consider that cheating in any way. There is always a fine-line though, but this does not cross it.

The only thing I had a problem with was, the two of you making the bogus threads selling gold, when really you guys weren't; and teaming up against me for no apparent reason. Those were not friendly Private Messages (well, yours was fine, but your buddy's was not), and that's not how I would conduct business around here.



I am quite sure you do not know what your talking about.
I myself, do not use any mods and as posted on my trade post.. I won't sell them or any non legit items so don't ask.
Everything I sell is legit in the sense it was dropped by a monster, legit killed without any use of any mods. My items have no flags, and never will. My gold comes from the items my team farms. when you have every boss being ran constantly in every mode.. You get a lot of gold. to-date i have around 12.8 billion.

As to talking to someone in PM, I have talked to no one so keep me out of it. You guys want to mod, you guys want to sell non legit items, go for it. If people want 100% legit items and legit in sense I am not violating the ToS by selling non legit items as legit. They will come to me. To date, we have sold around 3000fg worth of items. which is split three ways. every week. We also sell them on other sites.

This post was edited by Iniquitous on Jan 9 2013 11:47am
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Jan 9 2013 03:23pm
Did I ever once say you, or her, sold non-legit items? Please show me where I did. Until then; keep on doing what you're doing.

I personally don't sell those potions, if anything I'd give them away for free upon request, but I'm not going to log in-game to sell 1 for such a small fee.

Do I use that mod? I've already answered that. A great many of us do (and the only one I use), and if one doesn't, they most likely use Rapid Respec. I see no reason for said potion to not already be in the game sold by a vendor for a large sum of gold; or the trainer in town to do more of his work by providing us with a full respec of talents; not just the last 3. There's been a huge debate on this ever since TL1, and they knew there was an issue with it so they implemented the sending of one to your friends on Xbox Live after they released it for the PC. It costs nothing; you simply send one to a friend, and he or she sends one back once said person receives there's. It's in the actual game; no mods needed obviously, considering it's for the Xbox; it's in the damn game. This is why myself, and MOST others feel it's no big deal.

As far as legit items/gold; I've never sold anything non-legit. Case closed.

And I won't keep you out. Look at what you two were doing... and look at your words. You said "we" meaning; the two of you. You two obviously have something going on as far as prices are going with your gold, and that's totally fine; one doesn't need competition, but I also don't need my gold, nor my crew their items; so we're unloading what we have. We have mules packed, and we're tired of looking at them quite frankly, and if we want to get rid of what we have for a cheaper price; let us. No need to make bogus threads (which is either 1) a spam post or 2) illegal trade) to "force" me out like some punk thug.

This post was edited by Brandon_Bishop on Jan 9 2013 03:29pm
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Jan 9 2013 04:50pm
Quote (Iniquitous @ Jan 9 2013 12:44pm)
when you have every boss being ran constantly in every mode.. You get a lot of gold.


This has got to be the most laughable statement about Torchlight 2 that I have EVER heard.

He legit yall! oh god.... lol
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Jan 9 2013 05:01pm
Quote (mercsan @ Jan 9 2013 05:50pm)
This has got to be the most laughable statement about Torchlight 2 that I have EVER heard.

He legit yall! oh god.... lol



Legit, refers to how the items are obtained.

Not hacked, or Duped, or moded. Simply from a naturally occurring drop.
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Jan 12 2013 10:09pm
Quote (Iniquitous @ Jan 9 2013 06:01pm)
Legit, refers to how the items are obtained.

Not hacked, or Duped, or moded. Simply from a naturally occurring drop.


Do you read the things you post ever? or the things that other people post at all? Do you understand the inflections on the English language?

I seriously do not think that you do.
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Jan 13 2013 09:40am
Quote (Iniquitous @ 9 Jan 2013 19:01)
Legit, refers to how the items are obtained.

Not hacked, or Duped, or moded. Simply from a naturally occurring drop.


Considering the amount of time it takes to get 1 billion gold, selling 1 bil for 200 fgs would be like working 80 hours a week to get 1 mcdonald cheeseburger. I farm gold, i have a mage with twilight vambrace (30% + gold find) and sodalis shoulders (30% + gold find ), both with 2 x nephanic skulls ( 20% gold find each). The rest of her gear is ALL dual nephanic skulls. I cant have MORE gold find %, i farm mapworks maps with 25% bonus gold bonus and even with this, it takes me much more than 40 mins to get a million. So please... maybe to new Tl2 players you have credibility as a vanilla gold seller but to more experienced ones, you dont.

This post was edited by Trysakthot on Jan 13 2013 09:46am
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Jan 13 2013 09:56am
Quote (Trysakthot @ Jan 13 2013 10:40am)
Considering the amount of time it takes to get 1 billion gold, selling 1 bil for 200 fgs would be like working 80 hours a week to get 1 mcdonald cheeseburger. I farm gold, i have a mage with twilight vambrace (30% + gold find) and sodalis shoulders (30% + gold find ), both with 2 x nephanic skulls ( 20% gold find each). The rest of her gear is ALL dual nephanic skulls. I cant have MORE gold find %, i farm mapworks maps with 25% bonus gold bonus and even with this, it takes me much more than 40 mins to get a million. So please... maybe to new Tl2 players you have credibility as a vanilla gold seller but to more experienced ones, you dont.


This^

He could literally pull this shit on someone that JUST bought the game today. Not even though. lol
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Jan 13 2013 10:32am
I know, but heh, thats life,hopefully people will read this before considering wasting 200 fgs.

@Edit : Oh and i forgot to add that all my items on my gold farming mage have 17% gold drop enchantments as well. Only item without nephanic skulls is my wand.

This post was edited by Trysakthot on Jan 13 2013 10:48am
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