racist abuse and death threats for a penalty against arsenal. sad times:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/wilfried-zaha-racist-abuse-suffered-crystal-palace-arsenal-a8609611.html

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2803662-wilfried-zaha-responds-to-death-threats-racism-after-arsenal-penalty-incident

Hope this gets sorted asap, no room for racism.

Where's the racist abuse? Those articles you linked provide nothing tangible. People wishing for the deaths of Zaha's family members aren't doing so because he's black, but because he dived for a penalty. And because they are idiotic fans... that too, ofc.

This post was edited by zarkadon on Nov 1 2018 04:35am

He's stating there were death treaths and racist abuse, so I think he meant both.

He said they were being racist, but doesn't specify in what way. If you're going to complain about something, then you better provide proof. The journalists making a news article about this could have at least bothered linking whatever offensive tweets were causing the issue. The only one they linked was this one: https://twitter.com/JonBenjamin19/status/1056565640679620608 which is neither racist nor a death threat, just some lighthearted banter accusing him of being a diver.

interesting, do you think he's lying about the racism but not about the death threats? honest question, because it looks a bit like that's what you're suggesting...

Well, when I made my first comment I interpreted that when he said that people were being "racist and wishing death on my family" he meant that people where making death wishes (not threats), and he was claiming that was due to racism... my point was that those things were unrelated (if he really did receive death wishing comments), I wasn't judging if he was lying or not. And I wasn't treating the supposed racism and death wishes as separate issues as, like I said, I thought he was claiming that racism was implied in the death wishes.

On my second comment I do somewhat address the lying or not issue. But not really. I don't think he's lying or being honest, but it just seems like he's making accusations without proof, and I don't like that. That applies to both the death wishes and the racist accusations. I mainly addressed the racist issue because that's what the thread is centered on, with the title being "Another Premier League Racist Incident".

And my criticism wasn't just on Zaha for not providing any proof, but also on the journalists for not linking to any evidence... if they found hateful comments, then they should have cited them on the article, and if they didn't find any then they shouldn't be making a story out of this, especially not from a perspective where they take a side and assume that someone who isn't providing proof is right. Yes, I understand how journalism works, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize unprofessional or sensationalist work that doesn't follow thorough investigation procedures or the desire to deliver neutral and corroborable information.

It's more of Arsenal social media mob embarrass themselves again.

ah i see. maybe, but this is admittedly pure speculation, they didn't want to give that scum any publicity. maybe it was already deleted by twitter or zaha himself. i just don't see what he has to gain from making this up and putting an even bigger target on himself by doing so. sure, that alone is not proof of the allegations, but in my personal opinion, considering out current (political) climate and previous racist incidents, the likelihood of a completely fabricated claim is much lower than actual racist scumbags tweeting disgusting shit.
that's why my first impulse was not to attack every outlet running with the story for not providing the racist tweets themselves, but rather the people who likely did that - but hey, to each their own.

and just for the record, if he actually just made that up it'd be extremely shitty behaviour, and also damaging the fight against racism - because there is nothing that people with such sentiments love more than a false accusation, because then they can pretend that real racism doesn't exist...

> makes a disparaging topic about the premier league and Zaha being a victim of racist abuse by 'those typical English racists'
> gets found out when it's pointed out the article provides no evidence whatsoever of racist abuse

come on mate, you don't have to try this hard to bash the premier league, just accept your league has gone down the shitter.