between watering down the rules for foreign investor influence (which has already benefitted psg and man city considerably) and barcelona shamelessly abusing legal loopholes to sign the players they want...

is ffp already dead? and what do you think about it?

personally i think it's a shame. the insane tv deals already give english (and two spanish) clubs a huge financial advantage (which is ok imo - the league is clearly the most popular so they should benefit from it - although it IS kind of ridiculous that a below average english clubs can pay a player 3 to 4 times more than an average bundesliga club) over the rest of europe but the foreign investor regulations made sense imo. not only in terms of maintaining some balance throughout europe (in germany for example it's not possible for a random oligarch or sheick to obtain 50% of a club's voting rights) but also for the traditions of the football clubs and i think it would also benefit the youth players in countries with such financially dominant teams / leagues...

discuss...

Yes - Citeh and P$G just do whatever they want. Both get to have full strength squads for this year's UCL.

Hell Barca has suffered more with the transfer ban than the oil guzzling clubs have ever under this "FFP"

ffp was never alive i fear
they just wanted to make it look like they are doing something against oil money.....

There are many factors that are wrong, english clubs do get way too much support from the tv deals. Lower clubs can indeed pay more for a player than other foreign clubs. But in my opinion the whole system is messed up. Players are simply earning way too much for a job like a footballer. Transfer fees are going around at the 80 millions like its nothing while other clubs go bankrupt. A real FFP in my opinion would be to put a limit on players wages and transfer fees. Clubs that are healthy need to be rewarded with a bigger wage limit and transfer fee limit while clubs who break rules need to be banned like Barcelona have.

The FFP have taken some good decisions but they need to be consistant at all times. City,psg, barcelona, south arabian leagues, real madrid etc all need to be punished or we will see wages of 1 million a month beig a normal thing.

agree with many things you said although i'm against a strict regulation of transfer fees and player wages in general.
the problem i want to focus on, however, is that ffp was a step in the right direction but instead of (what many ppl actually expected) becoming stricter, the big and rich clubs lobbied so hard that the rules are relaxed. clubs like city, psg and barcelona (although i have to admit they don't technically belong here since their transfer ban was a fifa punishment not a ffp one) show with their attitudes that they have no interest whatsoever to make football a somewhat fairer sport and ultimately more attractive for the majority of fans...

Or there is a massive case of bribes going on...

well the term "lobbying" can be interpreted quite freely, especially when it comes to football i think... so yes, would not surprise me at all tbh...

That's the only reason I can think of that is causing the problem..

I'm obviously bias, but if the club is working towards a profitable future then spending is the only way to make it there. Ffp was a great idea, I agree, but the execution of it was horrible, I honestly think clubs going into debt is much worse that billionaires playing with their money.

There won't be a real financial fair play until they:

1. Make release clauses cumpolsory for everyone, capped at say 100M€.
2. Make player annual salaries after taxes equal to something like 5-10% of the release clause (so smaller clubs can't keep their players prisoner with insane release clauses, and big clubs can't offer insane ammounts of money to players from smaller clubs).
3. Get past Bosman's ruling by limiting the amount of players you can field that haven't played in a country a certain amount of years before they are 18.
4. Balance to a fairer ratio the prize money between CL and EL so that smaller clubs and leagues can develop and compete with the bigger ones.