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Jul 21 2017 06:18am
Quote (umade @ Jul 21 2017 12:03pm)
I mean in theory the release clause is good but with the TOP players, all the clauses are set at 200m+ euro rofl. It's just there technically, but nobody pays it.
I think there should be a cap on the amount, and I think it's GREAT for mid tier players. Say you play for Sunderland, you have a 4 year contract that's pretty bad. You have a break through in year two, you score 30 goals, everyone wants you, but your team wants an outrageous offer like 80m euro (obv you're native english).
It's clear you're too good for Sunderland and wants to move on. In other jobs, you usually have like 3-6 months if you quit your job. In football, it could be like 3 years. This is similiar to the Bosman rule. It'd be great if more agents started demanding REALISTIC release clauses for their upcoming talents.

For example, Payet in West Ham? In his heart maybe he knew he was going to be too good for West Ham one day. Why sign a long contract, play a year, do great at EC, demand to get sold to bigger club? Just have your fucking agent get the club to agree on a release clause.
Almost all players not on Barca, Atleti or Real have these ranging from like 15-50m euro. Simply because it's the right thing to do.


And that's where the problems in football are. Talent should be spread out and if you're contracted to a club you should have to see out that contract unless the club wants you gone/needs the money etc.

Then we'd have proper competitive football back, instead of the same old same old names drifting to the top with little effort.
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Jul 21 2017 06:26am
Quote (zarkadon @ 21 Jul 2017 12:14)
I think release clauses are a good thing tbh. Here in Spain it's mandatory for everyone to have one, and I wish it was like that everywhere else... players shouldn't be the property of the clubs they play for. If someone wants to leave, he should be able to if a previously agreed compensation is paid.


About the Neymar case, I'm pretty sure he won't leave. PSG is obviously a rich club, but I doubt it's possible for them to pay the 222M€+taxes of the release clause, plus the 30M€ per season of the contract media says are offering Neymar, without breaching FFP. Neymar just wants a raise imo.


They are saying that his father already received 40m €... An unsure deal doesnt look like this :/

This post was edited by Herolinda on Jul 21 2017 06:27am
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Jul 21 2017 06:44am
Quote (zarkadon @ 21 Jul 2017 13:50)
The thing is, if the player signs a contract with a release clause, the club can always say "you agreed to this release clause, so pay it or stfu". Without it the player can always say the club is betraying him, treating him like property, etc. Release clauses make the contracts more solid imo, because it's basically having the player say "I'm ok with my club not selling me if there isn't an offer of at least xxxx€", which gives the club leverage in potential negotiations. It ensures that if a player decides to leave against the club's will, the club willl at least get a compensation they considered fair when they made the contract. I do agree though that players should over all honor their contracts more often in today's football, but in any case I think that we shouldn't let corporations (in this case football clubs) be the ones that set the limit to the the freedom of worker movement.


thats the thing, the amount of compensation you considered fair when making the contract might not really be fair a year or two later
leading to more ridiculous amounts, like that one schalke talent, who isnt even near the first team, but at least he has a 50mio buy out

contracts have become an instrument to keep prices high, even players that will leave for certain in a year or two get 5 year deals
agreements between clubs and players should be more related to actual reality
or they should have a cancelation period like everyone else has it, however that would make the players cry

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thats the thing, the amount of compensation you considered fair when making the contract might not really be fair a year or two later
leading to more ridiculous amounts, like that one schalke talent, who isnt even near the first team, but at least he has a 50mio buy out

contracts have become an instrument to keep prices high, even players that will leave for certain in a year or two get 5 year deals
agreements between clubs and players should be more related to actual reality
or they should have a cancelation period like everyone else has it, however that would make the players cry


Well if you have a 50M buyout it doesn't mean you have to sell for 50M if he's a bench player worth 5-6M. Just like when you don't have release clauses, you can sell him for whatever price you consider fair, the only difference is that with release clauses there's an amount that guarantees that the player can be free to move on and the club can't hold him hostage even if they are being offered 500M€.

Quote (Herolinda @ 21 Jul 2017 14:26)
They are saying that his father already received 40m €... An unsure deal doesnt look like this :/


Well they are saying a lot of stuff tbh. Different sources are saying different things, and the news are contradicting. Neymar uploaded a picture to social media where he seems to be thinking (along with the "thinking" emoji)... I don't think this is the kind of thing he'd do if he was really going to go, because normally you'd just stay completely silent and not send out those confusing messages that are only going to upset Barça fans. I think he just wants things to heat up so he can get a juicy contract extension, but we'll see.
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Jul 21 2017 10:51am
Alexis is in Paris to finalize his move to PSG.

There's just NOOOO fucking way they can buy him and Neymar and be withing FFP
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Jul 21 2017 11:35am
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Alexis is in Paris to finalize his move to PSG.

There's just NOOOO fucking way they can buy him and Neymar and be withing FFP


He's only got a year left on his deal, can't be more than £40m for Alexis surely
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Jul 21 2017 01:16pm
Quote (Edgard @ 21 Jul 2017 18:51)
Alexis is in Paris to finalize his move to PSG.

There's just NOOOO fucking way they can buy him and Neymar and be withing FFP


weird, after all these wenger statements i was sure he would stay

€: lol ed

This post was edited by ampoo on Jul 21 2017 01:17pm
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Jul 21 2017 01:28pm
Just read that Neymar told his Brazilian teammates from PSG, that he will join them. :O

And Sánchez too? Damn.
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Jul 21 2017 01:30pm
No fucking WAY Neymar joins PSG of all teams, and leaves Barcelona.
No. Not in a million years.
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Jul 21 2017 02:11pm
Quote (umade @ Jul 21 2017 12:30pm)
No fucking WAY Neymar joins PSG of all teams, and leaves Barcelona.
No. Not in a million years.



It makes sense. He's sick of playing third fiddle to Messi and Chompers
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