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Sep 13 2016 06:58pm
Anyways.
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Sep 13 2016 07:00pm
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 13 Sep 2016 20:38)
I wonder why you always try to turn brexit into a fight over refugees when I have never (as far as I can recall) brought anything up regarding refugees? There must be something about refugees you find worrying.

he's a known racist, nothing to bother with. those sorts have no place in proper society.
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Sep 13 2016 07:05pm
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 14 Sep 2016 01:38)
I wonder why you always try to turn brexit into a fight over refugees when I have never (as far as I can recall) brought anything up regarding refugees? There must be something about refugees you find worrying.


haha, "nice" dodge, mate... so can you tell me how leaving the EU will solve the refugee issue for the UK or not? can you provide facts or just your biased opinion based on reports from what you yourself called a biased media?

also, that deduction of yours is based on some terrible "logic". addressing an issue does NOT imply a bias to either side... that being said, i have always openly admitted that i DO see problems with basically uncontrolled immigration like we have it here in germany but again, that's not what we're talking about in uk's case.
furthermore, the reason i'm addressing that issue again is because it was one of the major points the leave campaign made over and over again and the significant rise in hate crime after the referendum proves the propaganda successfully targeted the bigots with its anti immigrant / refugee rhetoric.

Quote (dro94 @ 14 Sep 2016 01:37)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37349040 - syrians that came in with the refugees planning attacks. PROVEN.

because merkel invited them over and most of europe is in the EU, specifically schengen, the surrounding countries have no control over their borders. that would be the same with the UK if we were in the EU. we'd be powerless to stop the migrant/muslim invasion in our lands. so actually it has everything to do with it fenderp...




i was worried about the economy but over the issue of sovereignty i agreed with the brexiters


uk IS still part of the EU but NOT part of schengen, you accepted laughably few refugees anyway since you are in FULL control of your borders. so you have no point there really. where is this "migrant / muslim invasion" you're talking about? plz provide some facts and not just your biased opinion.

also, look what you posted about this while you told everyone you voted "remain" before you became "proud" of your country leaving:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74670011&f=119&o=0

there are literally hundreds of posts you made in the weeks after the referendum arguing against leavers and bigots and the preposterous idea that leaving and "sovereignty" would have any impact on immigration... it's hilarious what a hypocrite you are...
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Sep 13 2016 07:11pm
Is this the year MCFC really takes it all ? people have been heard whispering around corners.
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Sep 13 2016 07:12pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 14 2016 02:05am)
uk IS still part of the EU but NOT part of schengen, you accepted laughably few refugees anyway since you are in FULL control of your borders. so you have no point there really. where is this "migrant / muslim invasion" you're talking about? plz provide some facts and not just your biased opinion.

also, look what you posted about this while you told everyone you voted "remain" before you became "proud" of your country leaving:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74670011&f=119&o=0

there are literally hundreds of posts you made in the weeks after the referendum arguing against leavers and bigots and the preposterous idea that leaving and "sovereignty" would have any impact on immigration... it's hilarious what a hypocrite you are...


we dont have full control of our borders in the EU, even if we arent in schengen, so you're wrong actually. we've got millions of polish, romanians and lots of other scumbags, rapists etc coming in.

like i said, i was always worried about the economic effects of brexit, and still am. however i cant say im shedding a tear over getting back control of our borders.

i think the elderly people of the uk knew what they were doing in voting to leave. i trust them, they are wiser than you my friend.

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Sep 13 2016 07:16pm
Quote (fender @ 14 Sep 2016 03:05)
haha, "nice" dodge, mate... so can you tell me how leaving the EU will solve the refugee issue for the UK or not? can you provide facts or just your biased opinion based on reports from what you yourself called a biased media?

also, that deduction of yours is based on some terrible "logic". addressing an issue does NOT imply a bias to either side... that being said, i have always openly admitted that i DO see problems with basically uncontrolled immigration like we have it here in germany but again, that's not what we're talking about in uk's case.
furthermore, the reason i'm addressing that issue again is because it was one of the major points the leave campaign made over and over again and the significant rise in hate crime after the referendum proves the propaganda successfully targeted the bigots with its anti immigrant / refugee rhetoric.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/18/refugees-will-repay-eu-spending-almost-twice-over-in-five-years-report
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Sep 13 2016 07:17pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 14 2016 01:05am)
haha, "nice" dodge, mate... so can you tell me how leaving the EU will solve the refugee issue for the UK or not? can you provide facts or just your biased opinion based on reports from what you yourself called a biased media?

also, that deduction of yours is based on some terrible "logic". addressing an issue does NOT imply a bias to either side... that being said, i have always openly admitted that i DO see problems with basically uncontrolled immigration like we have it here in germany but again, that's not what we're talking about in uk's case.
furthermore, the reason i'm addressing that issue again is because it was one of the major points the leave campaign made over and over again and the significant rise in hate crime after the referendum proves the propaganda successfully targeted the bigots with its anti immigrant / refugee rhetoric.


What refugee issue?

Good so do I.

Alas, I am not the leave campaign. :mellow:
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Sep 13 2016 07:39pm
Quote (dro94 @ 14 Sep 2016 02:12)
we've got millions of polish, romanians and lots of other scumbags, rapists etc coming in.


going full racist again i see... so this is the "muslim invasion" you're talking about? interesting



Quote (dro94 @ 14 Sep 2016 02:12)
we dont have full control of our borders in the EU, even if we arent in schengen, so you're wrong actually. [...]
like i said, i was always worried about the economic effects of brexit, and still am. however i cant say im shedding a tear over getting back control of our borders.


i could just explain it to you again but maybe you'll be more willing to learn from this guy:

Quote (dro94 @ 23 Jun 2016 14:47)
[...] leaving the EU doesn't solve this. Any free trade agreement crafted with the EU would have to allow the free movement of people, it is a founding principle of the EU, along with the free movement of goods, services and capital. Look at Norway and Switzerland, they are outside the EU but have uncontrolled EU immigration, it is unavoidable either way. All we can do is reduce the incentive through benefits, which we did do during the renegotiation. We could also build more houses, which is a domestic problem unaffiliated with the EU, and a result of incompetent governments that only look ahead a few years.[...]




Quote (dro94 @ 14 Sep 2016 02:12)
i think the elderly people of the uk knew what they were doing in voting to leave. i trust them, they are wiser than you my friend.


again, it's much more amusing when you argue with yourself - so here you go:

Quote (dro94 @ 24 Jun 2016 07:53)
A lot of the people that vote leave have some fantasy about how strong Britain is, this isn't the British empire anymore. Old white ppl voting leave in huge proportions but the 16 and 17 year olds can't vote over their future.


Quote (dro94 @ 24 Jun 2016 08:03)
They're more informed than my grandma and her friends all in their 80s voting leave. It's not their future, it's ours. 75% of 18-25 year olds voted remain but only 39% of 65+. They play cards twice a week and talk about what the postman was wearing this morning, they have no connection to reality in their bubble
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#8359
Sep 13 2016 07:44pm
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 14 Sep 2016 02:17)
What refugee issue?


the one that justifies the hate crimes? the one about the child molesters and gang violence that you claim there is without providing any actual facts. so... how is leaving the EU gonna resolve this? wanna dodge a 3rd time?

Quote (WNxIrvine @ 14 Sep 2016 02:17)
Good so do I.


you should have read the rest of that sentence: this doesn't apply to the UK since you have so few refugees there...

Quote (WNxIrvine @ 14 Sep 2016 02:17)
Alas, I am not the leave campaign.


i never said you were and still you bring the same flawed arguments forward...

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Sep 13 2016 07:54pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 14 2016 02:39am)
going full racist again i see... so this is the "muslim invasion" you're talking about? interesting

i could just explain it to you again but maybe you'll be more willing to learn from this guy:

again, it's much more amusing when you argue with yourself - so here you go:


you're the biggest racist on this forum and you hate the uk. you wanted the uk to leave but then moan when we do :rofl:

hopefully other countries leave and the EU gets disbanded, i guess you love undemocratic institutions and open door policies.
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