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Jul 23 2018 05:43pm
idiot gets exposed for basic reasoning fail and resorts to ridiculous excuses. TIL:

- rüdiger and gündogan were actually in our 2014 world cup winning squad - they'll be happy to know...
- german fans and experts were actually NOT surprised and dumbfounded by the shocking decision to leave sané at home and did NOT criticise that harshly...
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Jul 23 2018 05:55pm
Quote (fender @ 23 Jul 2018 19:43)
idiot gets exposed for basic reasoning fail and resorts to ridiculous excuses. TIL:

- rüdiger and gündogan were actually in our 2014 world cup winning squad - they'll be happy to know...
- german fans and experts were actually NOT surprised and dumbfounded by the shocking decision to leave sané at home and did NOT criticise that harshly...

a lot of word salad for “i dont understand English” from racist heinrich von goebbels, descendant of joseph

do me a favor and dont rage pm me (or dro or grahambo or goodness knows who else) over this discussion with a list of totalitarian demands that would make your ancestor joseph proud.
Quote (ampoo @ 23 Jul 2018 19:40)
over 80 million people would have had him in the team, except löw


well heinrich would have rejected him, because he played for FC Schalke and not Dynamo Dresden, but everyone else wouldnt reject such a class player

e: read the last post again and reported heinrich von goebbels, descendant of joseph aka fender

This post was edited by excellence on Jul 23 2018 05:57pm
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Jul 23 2018 06:03pm
aaaand he went full r... ad hominem again, what a surprise. also, quite interesting what some people consider 'english'.

the simple truth is: if racism was a factor in sané's exclusion, rüdiger's nomination would most certainly not have happened. that's basic logic and no amount of personal attacks will make the embarrassing failure to realise that disappear.
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Jul 23 2018 06:04pm
Quote (fender @ 23 Jul 2018 20:03)
aaaand he went full r... ad hominem again, what a surprise. also, quite interesting what some people consider 'english'.

the simple truth is: if racism was a factor in sané's exclusion, rüdiger's nomination would most certainly not have happened. that's basic logic and no amount of personal attacks will make the embarrassing failure to realise that disappear.

didnt read your rage, racist.

dont pm me again, its getting old.
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Jul 23 2018 11:57pm
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didnt read your rage, racist.

dont pm me again, its getting old.


:lol:
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Jul 24 2018 12:27am
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just stop it pozer, what a pile of rubbish from clueless cunts


He's right 100% about the "when I win I'm german.. " bit. It's the same here in Belgium with Lukaku.
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just stop it pozer, what a pile of rubbish from clueless cunts
When the biggest and most respected sport anti racism organisation gets involved to show their support after claiming the abuse is at least partially based on racial prejudice you should at least consider you might be wrong.
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He's right 100% about the "when I win I'm german.. " bit.


sure, but that's not the part people disagree with. that's the 'when i lose i'm a turk' part, which is bs for > 99% of football fans and 100% of our press and the dfb. tens of millions have been put into tolerance, pro immigration, and multiculturalism campaigns and policies. show me ONE article in a german newspaper, just ONE dfb policy or decision that so much as hints at it, let alone supports özil's claims... it's complete bs and again, a red herring. the dfb leadership is riddled with incompetence and overblown egos, but most certainly not with racists...

i get that he's gotten a lot of abuse on the internet, where bigots roam freely and share their ignorance with the world, but he used that (maybe not even on purpose but because he can't really distinguish it) to push the 'everyone is racist against me' narrative, which conveniently ignores his own shortcomings in this whole deal - and all the gullible fools, the easily offended sjw types, and the people who rather accuse others of racism than reflect on their own behaviour, just go with it - please don't be one of them just because you like the player. i do too, but his ridiculous accusations are inflicting major damage on a long and tedious, but also fragile process that is so important for our whole society.

those kickitout statements can't be taken seriously because they just blindly go with özil's racism narrative (without providing ANY proof ofc) and don't even mention the incident this whole affair started with: özil's public and unapologetic support for someone who is ACTUALLY a racist, someone who kills and imprisons people for being kurds or alevis, amongst other things...
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Jul 24 2018 04:58am
meanwhile its reported that özil has actually spoken with erdogan, who complains about racism against muslims

thats right mesut, go and cry on the shoulder of your president
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Jul 24 2018 05:47am
Also the statistics I meant from the World cup:

OptaJoe

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5.5 - @MesutOzil1088 created more chances per 90 minutes than any other player at the 2018 World Cup (minimum 90 minutes played). Tackled.

WhoScored.com

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Mesut Özil: No player made more key passes in a World Cup match than @MesutOzil1088 vs South Korea (7)

This is why I hate it when people say he played poor, because he didn't.
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