Quote (B4al @ Jun 27 2010 04:48pm)
I don`t care for the place he was born in. I care about the origins of his parents. Place where you`re born can be highly accidental, you can be born in ghana by accident that doesn`t make you ghanese.
So cut the bullshit "He was born in" that doesn`t make him german.
When klinsmann used to play, they didn`t have to nationalise players to get performance.
Now they simply buy skill. Germany intrinsically sucks.
dumb arguments
both sides are wrong. Nationality how it is handled in law is some paperwork shit, does this really matter for soccer?
I agree the argument, that the place of birth doesnt matter for nationality .. and its actually LEAST important for your "football talent".. but many Germans here use it as an argument. I'd say fail even though I am German myself
But neither does the oirigin of the parents.. it says nothing about your own nationality.. probably genetic football talent can be passed but if not properly developed it doesnt help you. As an example: I am currently living in China. Many people here are big football fans but due to strucutral problems there are only bad football clubs with low support and the youth cannot develop their talents.. so there are only bad chinese football players even though they have a pool of 1,3 billion people to search in and probably 200 million kids.. nobody can tell me that there isnt a bunch of 20 kids in this mass that could become world class football players if properly trained.
The real deciding factor is where people learned playing football & the place where they grew up! I am sure all/most German players learned playing football in Germany from their childhood on.. Growing up in a country and having his roots there is for me a better definition of "Nationality" and our club system - even though we germans may not have the best league - can "produce" good players
germany slammed england with german football players, ty win.