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Dec 10 2017 10:15am
Quote (grahambo @ 10 Dec 2017 12:13)
It was a stupid move for sure by lovren but not a pk whatsoever



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Dec 10 2017 10:39am
Quote (ampoo @ 10 Dec 2017 17:14)
he goes down easily, but you simply cant complain when you push your opponent like that




oh that "argument" again
because half the corner kicks in pro football look like wrestling its ok :mellow:


not a pen at women football either. if you think that contact is enough to verify a pen, good lord at the amount of penalties called in the future. this was way more dive than pen tbh

barely touched him, and contact like that happens all the time, even in the box. football is still a contact sport. maybe not in the premier league, who knows ^_^
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Quote (darki99 @ Dec 10 2017 04:39pm)
not a pen at women football either. if you think that contact is enough to verify a pen, good lord at the amount of penalties called in the future. this was way more dive than pen tbh

barely touched him, and contact like that happens all the time, even in the box. football is still a contact sport. maybe not in the premier league, who knows ^_^


He did push him in the back, however, not to a degree where its a penalty - but with the opponent diving its very hard to judge for the referee - and therefore it was a bad mistake of lovren, he should know this.
Are you playing stupid?
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He did push him in the back, however, not to a degree where its a penalty - but with the opponent diving its very hard to judge for the referee - and therefore it was a bad mistake of lovren, he should know this.
Are you playing stupid?


If you move into the defender and then fall over im sorry it is 100% not a penalty. What is lovren supposed to do turn invisible so he doesn't touch him? 2 games in a row with absolutely shocking pens against us. One at Brighton was just as bad. If you aren't 100% sure you cannot give a penalty, it is the biggest game changing call there is. Absolute robbery
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Dec 10 2017 01:39pm
A lot of dumbshit pundits say 'a defender shouldn't have made the tackle, therefore it was a penalty', which is actually a fallacious argument because it has no relevance to the rules of the game.

Lovren shouldn't have put his hand on the player's back, but that does not mean it was a pen.
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Quote (grahambo @ Dec 10 2017 07:33pm)
If you move into the defender and then fall over im sorry it is 100% not a penalty. What is lovren supposed to do turn invisible so he doesn't touch him? 2 games in a row with absolutely shocking pens against us. One at Brighton was just as bad. If you aren't 100% sure you cannot give a penalty, it is the biggest game changing call there is. Absolute robbery


https://youtu.be/s_aQWf0_tBc?t=347

Yes thats what im saying, it should not be a penalty, but its super hard to see for the referee if he push him in the back ( which he did, softly ) and he dives.
And if you know about football you should know that referees make decisions every match that they shouldnt have.

This is why they need to start watching replays for harder decisions, but they dont.
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Dec 10 2017 01:45pm
Quote (Swaan @ 10 Dec 2017 18:14)
He did push him in the back, however, not to a degree where its a penalty - but with the opponent diving its very hard to judge for the referee - and therefore it was a bad mistake of lovren, he should know this.
Are you playing stupid?

might as well rewatch it. contact was mainly initiated by Calvert-Lewin. he did change direction to bump into Lovren on purpose. that was basically out of James Harden flopping playbook lol

Lovren didnt even extend his arm at all. at best that was equal a push from a 1 yr old boy
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Dec 10 2017 02:33pm
In the end, the penalty decision shouldn't have mattered at all. Liverpool had enough chances to have that game completely buried by half time.
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Quote (Swaan @ 10 Dec 2017 17:04)
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oh there's the reason why u are talking nonsense, you are from the same country as lovren the loser himself.



if my location would have anything to do with lovren then i would defend him all the time,its about the pen itself.get ur facts right welcher

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