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Quote (ampoo @ Mar 9 2016 07:04pm)
very enjoyable game, chelsea played quite alright
with a bit more luck things could have been different, psg wasnt that great after all tonight


if psg get barca -juve-bayern imo they will lose. I do believe they can take real-atleti tho.
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if psg get barca -juve-bayern imo they will lose. I do believe they can take real-atleti tho.


if psg should face us (after beating juve ofc) they will have to search for two new center backs
thiago silva and sideshow bob will go missing when they see my boy müller warming up B)
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Mar 9 2016 05:13pm
Quote (chelsea11 @ 9 Mar 2016 23:54)
So Bayern didn't score because they were unlucky in all of their chances?


Not "unlucky" exactly.

Let me rephrase that:

Out of 10 times players like Müller, Robben, Gomez (at that time) or Ribery are given a chance as good as their chances in the final vs. Chelsea (including for example a penatly) , they will score 7-8 times. That's why they're considered some of the best in their job.

"Solid defending" - like you call it - would concentrate on not giving them those chances and definitely not on hoping for the 20-30% miss probablility to save your ass every single time.


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and barca didn't score because they were unlucky with all of their chances?


Not unlucky. But again... your team allowed them tons and more of scoring chances from inside the box, many times even 1vs1 with Cech (and again even a penalty), where the probablility for players like Messi, Iniesta, etc. to score is much higher than the probablity to miss / for Cech to save.


That's why I said:

Chelsea need to learn how to properly defend and keep their opponents under pressure much further away from their box. If they don't, other decent teams will always have the odds in their favor.

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Not "unlucky" exactly.

Let me rephrase that:

Out of 10 times players like Müller, Robben, Gomez (at that time) or Ribery are given a chance as good as their chances in the final vs. Chelsea (including for example a penatly) , they will score 7-8 times. That's why they're considered some of the best in their job.

"Solid defending" - like you call it - would concentrate on not giving them those chances and definitely not on hoping for the 20-30% miss probablility to save your ass every single time.




Not unlucky. But again... your team allowed them tons and more of scoring chances from inside the box, many times even 1vs1 with Cech (and again even a penalty), where the probablility for players like Messi, Iniesta, etc. to score is much higher than the probablity to miss / for Cech to save.


That's why I said:

Chelsea need to learn how to properly defend and keep their opponents under pressure much further away from their box. If they don't, other decent teams will always have the odds in their favor.


ok.
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Mar 9 2016 05:35pm
Didn't see the game, knew hiddink as an excellent tactician, expected chelki to put up a fight.

Seems PSG walked over them.
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ok.



So, in other words, over a total of 3 games (semi-finals + final), you would actually consider...

- ... 2 missed penalties by the opposing team,
- ... 4 times being saved only by the post/bar,
- ... numerous times being saved only by Cech in 1vs1 situations vs. strikers like Sanchez, Messi, Robben, Müller or Gomez
- ... several times when Cech was already beaten and the ball was only cleared a few inches before the line by defenders

... solid defending?

Explains a lot regarding view on football :)

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Quote (aneas @ Mar 9 2016 07:37pm)
So, in other words, over a total of 3 games (semi-finals + final), you would actually consider...

- ... 2 missed penalties by the opposing team,
- ... 4 times being saved only by the post/bar,
- ... numerous times being saved only by Cech in 1vs1 situations vs. strikers like Sanchez, Messi, Robben, Müller or Gomez
- ... several times when Cech was already beaten and the ball was only cleared a few inches before the line by defenders

... solid defending?

Explains a lot regarding view on football :)



I was hoping my "ok" was going to make you stop writing lol.
It's getting annoying...
We did have a solid defense, why we won CL

This post was edited by chelsea11 on Mar 9 2016 05:41pm
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Quote (B4al @ Mar 9 2016 07:35pm)
Didn't see the game, knew hiddink as an excellent tactician, expected chelki to put up a fight.

Seems PSG walked over them.


nah, it was a good game.
At 1-1 it was really exciting, could go either way and they ended up picking up the goal to finish the match.
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Mar 9 2016 05:55pm
Quote (chelsea11 @ 10 Mar 2016 00:41)
I was hoping my "ok" was going to make you stop writing lol.
It's getting annoying...
We did have a solid defense, why we won CL



Ofc course my arguments can get annoying when you cannot come up with any of your own and simply base your opinion ("we did have a solid defense") on... well... on nothing basically.
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