Yup proven I know little of bayern's past as I barely ever follow German leagues. Still never seen them set up man for man against 3 of the best forwards in the world though.

How so?

dont know why you are discussing with this guy ^^
of course bayern has an identity, but we also work with the players ad coaches we have
possession style is nothing new btw, we have that since van gaal

and b4al shouldnt act like tiki taka is barcas philosophy since the beginning of time

that defense formation was a typical pep experiment
he simply does not give a shit and loves to be praised should his bullshit work

luis enrique does the right thing with barca
letting them play simple and aggressive football

This post was edited by ampoo on May 7 2015 08:53am

I really don't know either. Same reason for arguing with the Spanish fanboy Tred. Need to burn some time at work. Pretty boring when jobs literally take hours and you're just twiddling thumbs in between

Tiki taka isn't, but barcelona has always played possesion and attacking football. That is always required regardless of who is in charge. A coach like mourinho or park the bus would never be accepted on our bench. Plus our 4-3-3 is kinda the default formation.

Doubt pep is trying to build a second barca at munich, the guy just simply sticks to his football philosophy. I respect that.Is it the best ? I dont know. Experiments as you call them are mainly due to the fact that players in germany aren't really world beaters and certainly not even close to what barca had few years ago. Plus a thing everyone misses. There is no Messi playin in germany.

As far as the bayern identity goes, i've always disliked them. This season i watched them more than i watched them in the previous 10 years. Main reason was pep.
Facts : Always played meh football. Crippled leverkusen back in the day.Crippled bvb with shit disgusting signings (remember the announcement of goetze being signed just before playin bvb in the finals?). Its as disgraceful as madrid was signing figo.

Facts : 2 bundesliga titles won in record time. 2 times in semis, regardless if you proceed or not, you are top4 in europe.
Every player signed was good. Bernat, thiago, even xabi and benatia are over anything bayern had.

Yet you are always complaining.

This post was edited by B4al on May 7 2015 09:20am

Xabi > Martinez ? Thiago > kroos? Bernat > alaba or lahm?

so much crap.....
we have incredible players and peps experiments are not needed, players out of position....
best right back in the world in midfield and much more
shifting formation like 10 times per game, players cant even follow his instructions and wild gestures

this guy is an egomaniac

yes, we won the league easily twice in a row now with the best overall squad we ever had
his signings were alright

pep ruined last years cl with his shit tactics and leaving my boys javi and müller on the bench
even the real guys say that that one was his fault
the cup win 2014 was a bit lucky, but fine

this year we won only 1 out of 8 games against the other top teams in bundesliga (wolfsburg, leverkusen, gladbach, schalke)
in the cup leverkusen was defeated in pelanties (crap performance) and versus dortmund our team almost collapsed in the last 20min after peps changes (the ridiculous shootout wasnt his fault of course)
yesterday these complete joke tactics with a 3 vs 3 against the best striker formation, sloppy and dangerous passing at the back, no penetration forward, too many people behind the ball
and pep saw no reason to change anything, even took müller off for götze who should receive balls from götze if not müller? this didnt make any sense at all

i am so tired of this "pep-mania", we are getting rekt against decent teams, thats a fact and its not lacking player material
the guys at sky germany truly managed to call peps changes after dreadful 15 minutes "an excellent move", so pep is even praised for ludicrous mistakes

fuck this guy, he is ruining us

incredible, but kinda one dimensional. I appreciate the muller workrate and getting into good positions, but creatively he's very limited.
even robben is one dimensional. and injured. Ribery past it kinda. Schweini was mostly injured.

If you had met one team that parked the bus in the jup era, i am almost sure you wouldnt have won.

Anyways, we shall see when pep goes how much of a threat you will pose to the bliga teams. I doubt you'll get any better with either favre, tuchel or other meh club coaches.



Martinez i consider a destroyer while xabi is a deep playmaker. Martinez was best in jupp era, since injury he has been meh and slow as fuck. Not reliable to start.
Xabi has been great for madrid and had his ocasional sparks for bayern, although i consider him past it. Still in spite of his salary, came free and helped bayern when they needed (whole mid injured), yet you cant appreciate shit.

Thiago is miles better than kroos.
In defensive duties, bernat better, offensively alaba >

Have you seen bernat yersteday?
Martinez has been played out of position by guardiola..
Xabi has been médiocre at best
I dont rate thiago for bayern. He's not the kind of player we need.