If u actually had any knowledge, u wouldn't need to come up with shitty statistics. Nobody denies that up till early 2000 not only La Liga and Serie A but also arguably Bundesliga were above EPL. Therefore it makes ur part about Valencia, Depor, Atletico winning the La Liga useless. But since La Liga became 2 horse race and an improved version of scottish league, EPL took over. U can try and twist the reality as much as u like, but u won't change the fact, that EPL is top league currently. yes, spanish clubs beat English clubs in EL, but hey, look who's playing there. When Sevilla and Atletico won the EL, there's no denying the fact, that they got there by failing to advance from group stage i.e by simply being not good enough for CL. While in the final 3 rd or 4th Spanish team faced the likes of Boro and Fulham. Hardly top EPL teams. Yes, this season sucked for EPL, but how often do u see English CL clubs playing there?
Since EPL took over, LA Liga's reputation was being held solely by Barcelona, hence the results in CL, but hey, nobody denies their status in football. How many other Spanish clubs have even been to the semis besides them? Even the mighty Real managed to complete this feat just once. While EPL alone had 4 different teams in the Final. In other words, only 2 spanish clubs are competitive in CL.
And another obvious thing to see is that since the decline La Liga has been losing their stars to EPL. I won't even be naming them, cuz everybody knows them, but again, only the big two stopped La Liga from become something like Portugese league that constantly can't keep hold of their best players.
Finally, check the worldwide TV viewing figures. I doubt that La Liga is even close. So yeah, keep on bashing EPL for one off season ( eventho it still will have one team in the semis- something that kept happening with spanish clubs) with meaningless facts, but it won't change the simple truth, that English league is still the place to be. And Spain still has only two teams tthat are able to compete on top level.

Stopped reading right there. Come back if you have any facts or arguments, not just blind hate - I can't be bothered with your rage essay!

He is actually right.. He has loads of arguments so read the damn thing.

Pretty sure he read the whole thing. The problem is that he cannot come up with reasonable argument. So he could either stick with his usual "more smileys than actual words" response or simply dodge.
But that's hardly surprising, cuz anybody who's got at least minimal knowledge in football, could make even Seria A look better than EPL using his retarded logics.

I hope you're not kidding me. Ok, I'll read it but if it's all just biased BS I will sue you!

Ok, here we go:



So Spain is a 2 horse race but their 3rd 4th and 5th place beating your 4th and 5th place is nothing because they are not top EPL teams? I thought one of Premier Leagues greatest strengths is that it is so balanced and strong - not only the top 2 teams? Holy excuses!



You make it sound like Barca and Real don't play in La Liga. So what, "only" 2 teams are competitive in CL as of now, but how many English clubs are? The absolute powerhouses of your league not only failed in CL but also in EL! Yes, EPL had 4 different teams in the final but what is better? Winning the title more often or having a bigger number of teams in the finals? Seriously, what a far-fetched argument to prove your leagues strength.
In a nutshell: La Liga is better at absolute top-level and also at Europa League top-level but Premier League is better at reaching Champions League semis and finals with more clubs, right? Well, I give you that but if you think that makes it superior I really feel bad for you!



Wow, just wow! So buying stars with Russian, Arabian and American money, having more foreigners than English players in the league but still not winning the titles is considered a sign of strength now? That's one weird way to look at it. And worldwide TV viewing figures? Jesus, what does that have to do with the strength of the league?
I never said La Liga was richer or had more star players (in fact i showed how much more money EPL spends in my initial post!) I just said they are stronger / better. I'm talking about the sport, the trophies, the prestige - not the best marketing!

Well, I give you credit for actually trying after your uncalled-for hate statement. I should have just ignored it but I expected the rest to be even more rage and pointless personal attacks. Thankfully CpTJenJen convinced me to read it. And although I disagree with many of your points it's great to see that someone actually tried to make a point!

What the heck? What's with all your personal attacks? Retarded logics? I clearly made solid arguments to prove my points - throughout the whole thread! You however make your weak arguments even weaker by showing your butthurt!

I concur that messi is a great leader. one of the greatest leaders of all times imho. him being captain of the argentina squad just proves my point.<

uefa league coefficient for instance
rates more than just the winning clubs and is more or less immune to runaway values

I thought we're discussing the strength of the leagues not top clubs
by your statistics you're saying that la liga wins more trophies aka has the better top teams.
given the distribution of tv money in spain it's not a big surprise though.
but this just indicates how much of a joke this league is

Seriously, seek help.
You don't even support any particular club nor are an actual football fan, you just come here to annoy others with your ridiculous football opinions.
As I said - seek help.

perhaps if everyone would actually watch matches from both leagues this discussion could hold meaning.

Nice comeback, your facts are very convincing, your arguments are very strong - you should teach debating!
You're making it too easy!

Seriously, we all know what we can expect from YOU: Hate against every club and player not linked to United, biased polls and pictures of naked football players. Just piss off if you have nothing to contribute and don't accuse me of annoying anyone when in fact that's the best you can hope to achieve with your mindless statements!

This post was edited by Tredecim on Mar 28 2012 05:13am