Depends on the person and their situation/preferences. America is a huge place with wildly different climates, cultures and experiences.
Some people like the right to bear arms and protect their family. some people like freedom of speech. some people like the sports and club/music scenes. some people dont like high taxes. some people dont like a government obsessed with SJWism, extremely reducing emissions(have you seen their gas prices?) and virtue signaling/immigration at their expense. Some people like higher purchasing power. Some people dont like leaving their friends and family.

Compared to most places america is a land of opportunity and prosperity.
Compared to a handful of the most wealthy white countries with relatively free markets and fairly high social liberty the differences aren't that crazy.
Im not a 'rah-rah america is perfect' type of guy. There are clearly some problems, but its not 'way worse than my country because free lunch man!' brainwashed stuff either.
most people would be relatively fine living in either place.

despite 'free' education at tax payer expense swedish students have almost as much debt as americans.
Are you planning on getting 'free' education in Sweden or would you just be paying for it without attending? you likely arent eligible for free tuition as an american.
The taxes on the middle class are MUCH higher and you seem concerned about the misleading narrative that middle classes are going up here.

what the government spends tax dollars on is mostly public knowledge. its mostly entitlements/safety net programs and then military.
a lot of the same shit governments waste money on across the globe. their shit stinks too is the point i guess.

For a country to be fair you must have 'free' educations. You dont choose to be born in a broke family.

according to what definition of fair?
why is it 'fair' to force one person to pay for someone else's college? If a poor person forgoes college and works for a living why is it fair to force him to pay for some rich kid going to college?
why is 'fairness', meaning forced equality, a better goal than liberty and justice for all?

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 15 2017 05:45pm

Because 'forced' equality creates less criminality?
Because less criminality means more educated people?
Because more educated people is the key for a good working country?

There are obviously bad stuffs that tax money goes to, but education is NOT one of them - as soon as the person who came from a broke family got educated he pays soooo much more back to the society.

If someone forgoes college its his own choice/fault, atleast here in sweden - as we can do it for free.
If our taxes wasnt at 33% in Sweden ,which it currently, we wouldnt live in such a great society as we do.

the link between 'free' college tuition and criminality is tenuous at best.
what is moral and 'fair' is not determined by what you think will result in the least criminality.

Choosing to work over going to college is not inherently a bad thing for everyone. Some people need a job sooner. Some jobs dont or shouldn't require a degree. College also has very expensive costs aside from tuition, which i referred to earlier when i was talking about the debt of swedish students.

Someone 'choosing' to forgo college doesnt make it fair to force him to pay for someone else's.
Its this sort of perverse incentive that 'free' college creates where someone who is messing around or doesn't need to go to college is incentivized to do so.

But you are right that education is but one of a number of things you get heavily taxed for in Sweden and that many other things have a less glowing appeal than education. (some might call them "obviously bad")
The 33% tax rate is underselling the extent of the taxation.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 15 2017 06:51pm

33% isn’t even that much. Thats basically what I have deducted in tax and insurance. I wouldn’t be going to school there, but it’d be in the future for children.
If you were someone immigrating to the USA from another first world country, what’s something specific it has to offer that other countries don’t? Besides it’s diverse and many climates.

more freedom, including in crucial areas. the pinnacle of entertainment and sports. a culture and history of having balls and limited government.
purchasing power. wealth. if most first world countries became a US state they be among the poorer states. sweden included. their median income and even gdp pale in comparison to many US states.


His 33% is a gross understatement of the tax burden they face. they have a large 25% VAT on top of flatter+higher income taxes.

https://taxfoundation.org/how-scandinavian-countries-pay-their-government-spending/

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 15 2017 08:32pm

If you wanna earn alot of money usa is a better coutry, unless you wanna make a living on 'gambling-classified games' such as poker etc, as it all is taxfree in swe.
But i didnt think we only spoke about getting super rich? High taxes makes countries better man, its impossible to be homeless in sweden, look in usa lol.

Are you for real?