you can thank queen merkel aka mother of the world for that......one woman show
and of course our antigerman, ultra left wing movement who were happy to spread the message
leave us out of this



and its bullshit, as if the world would end if some people would have to show their id or the police would control the most obvious romanian trucks on the borders
oh and by the way, almost everyone seems to have forgotten that our precious schengen agreement does NOT say that european borders should be as they are now....just saying

This post was edited by ampoo on Mar 22 2016 10:11am

Irvine stop being bully.

The ignorant posts in this topic..

let's not forget that it was erdogan who brought that upon his people. is it tragic? for sure, but let's not forget, they voted for that scumbag who didn't want to accept a strong kurdish political opposition and therefore sacrificed a quite promising and stable peace between turks and kurds, bombing and killing them while collaborating with the islamic state.
the turks were the ones who attacked the kurds. does that justify cowardly killing innocent civilians? of course not - but it sure looks different when both sides do it...






facts and nuance don't really bother you guys too much, do they? while i strongly disagree with merkel's immigrant policy, i think it's absolutely ridiculous and shameful to exploit these tragedies to further your hateful and biased agendas. yes, the open borders and the seemingly uncontrollable flow of immigrants make it easier for these guys, that's why i disagree with her policies - but it's not like these acts of terror are a direct result from merkel's / germany's decisions concerning the war in syria - that's just ignorant and dishonest.
brussels, like many other european cities and countries, had a growing immigrant population for decades, that abdeslam guy was actually born there. to now act like that all could have been prevented if you just closed all borders is nothing short of retarded.

also, ampoo - why don't you just stop making such ridiculous anti muslim statements like in your first post? that's like saying "look, another child molested - christianity, religion of love" or whenever america invades a country based on lies and economic interest "look, more innocent muslims dying to crusaders - christianity, religion of peace". you wouldn't agree with those statements, would you?

Reading posts properly doesn't really bother you too much, does it? I didn't say the terror attacks were carried out by immigrants, or that it could have been prevented with closed borders.

The more Muslim immigration into Europe now could cause more terror attacks in 10+ years, as the children of muslim immigrants are much more likely to be radicalised than any other minority or population demographic.

In addition, security checks are very weak or non-existant, meaning immigrants could potentially be a terror threat. Let me just be clear and reiterate what I previously stated as you cannot read properly - I never said it was carried out by immigrants or it could have been prevented with closed borders!

you can keep calling the fact, that there is a problem with a certain group with a disproportionate affinity for violence, ridiculous for all i care, but dont expect everyone to do it
nice to see so much hate triggered and accusations for things i didnt say here, but whatever man (thats exactly whats wrong with this discussion )

and referring to my last post, that was related to dros and irvines discussion about border policy in general
had to respond to this, over and out

you should read more carefully. i didn't say you "said" it, i said you "act" like this is the case - for example by blaming germany for "telling millions of muslims to come over". like other countries had no say or influence on eu immigration policy in the last couple of decades. especially looking at france and england with major parts of their immigration still being based on colonial history...
and just to be clear, i'm absolutely in favour of stricter (or any for that matter) border controls / security and basic background checks for immigrants - and i can for the life of me not figure out how any rational human being could be against that or hesitant trying to find a solution as the current way clearly leads to many social and even logistic problems...



you don't seem to understand a very important (and actually not so difficult) distinction. the fact, that some people justify their acts of cowardice and terror with their religion, does not translate to that religion being inherently violent or solely responsible for those acts. that's, however, what you imply when you make statements like you do (don't know if you do it out of ignorance, hate or stupidity and frankly, it doesn't even matter. i'm just trying to explain to you what you're doing here). anyway, if you're willing to apply that "logic" of yours both ways, it'll lead to ridiculous conclusions like i showed you before - i was actually hoping it was easier for you to understand by doing it but you obviously didn't get it.

also, the amongst people like you always popular "that's what's wrong with the discussion" is not an actual argument but the petty attempt to make ignorant blanket statements sound like you were "just telling the truth" while in fact they are only stoking fear and leading to less communication between the reasonable parts of the population. people who see / hear / read such statements from seemingly normal people like you will conclude "if they all just assume we're all terrorists anyway, there's no way of proving them wrong and being treated fairly". these kind of generalisation lead to hostility and discrimination and in turn to radicalisation - which then again will lead simple minded people, who actively contributed to this vicious circle with their hateful rhetoric, to think they were right all along...

This post was edited by fender on Mar 22 2016 03:35pm

Shut up

Belgium needs to do something. It's the capitol for terrorists in Europe.

Belgium HAS been doing alot. The police and special forces, along with the french special forces have prevented ALOT of attacks here in Belgium.