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i don't think anyone really believes they could "fight the IS with words". but racism and demonising all muslims i also not fighting the IS. neither is randomly bombing and drone striking those countries, killing innocent civilians there - it's actually HELPING the IS recruiting new members...

i personally think we DO need stricter controls of all the refugees flooding into our country and much more than that we need a fair way to distribute them amongst ALL european countries, not just germany but i don't think we should just close our borders and keep them out just because they don't have the same religion as we...


that wouldnt be my point as well, just saying
most of them have no business here, whoever they are or what they believe

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Based on what? You do realize in christianity, stonings and executions were a regular thing aswell right?


yep, but these times are long gone

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Based on what? You do realize in christianity, stonings and executions were a regular thing aswell right?


yes mill but religon is OUTDATED to fuck now yet 70% of the world still live like cave men ... the way they treat women for example is a joke

e/

you cant compare events 500 years ago to events now

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Close the thread, were not talking football
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Quote (ampoo @ Nov 17 2015 09:26pm)
that wouldnt be my point as well, just saying
most of them have no business here, whoever they are or what they believe



yep, but these times are long gone


Quote (aswethegods @ Nov 17 2015 09:27pm)
yes mill but religon is OUTDATED to fuck now yet 70% of the world still live like cave men ... the way they treat women for example is a joke

e/

you cant compare events 500 years ago to events now


I'm saying that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

There are forms of Islam that use these methods but there are also forms of Islam that don't. I have plenty of friends who are islam and wouldn't hurt a fly, they follow their belief and do it in peace.

It's ignorant to put the blame on islam and project every single islam as a threat.
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Nov 17 2015 02:31pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Nov 17 2015 08:30pm)
I'm saying that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

There are forms of Islam that use these methods but there are also forms of Islam that don't. I have plenty of friends who are islam and wouldn't hurt a fly, they follow their belief and do it in peace.

It's ignorant to put the blame on islam and project every single islam as a threat.


I agree
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Quote (Mr_Mill @ 17 Nov 2015 21:30)
I'm saying that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

There are forms of Islam that use these methods but there are also forms of Islam that don't. I have plenty of friends who are islam and wouldn't hurt a fly, they follow their belief and do it in peace.

It's ignorant to put the blame on islam and project every single islam as a threat.


then you are lucky to have this enlightened minority around you, most of us arent so fortunate

you are right not to blame it ALL on islam, i dont do that as well, but most people from islam countries being incompatible with our culture is a fact
there are more reasons why these people lack basic human dignity, but i refuse to say that it has nothing to do with islam
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Nov 17 2015 02:35pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 17 Nov 2015 22:25)
Based on what? You do realize in christianity, stonings and executions were a regular thing aswell right?



you talk about issues xxx years ago...^^the muslims still behave like that
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Quote (ampoo @ Nov 17 2015 09:33pm)
then you are lucky to have this enlightened minority around you, most of us arent so fortunate

you are right not to blame it ALL on islam, i dont do that as well, but most people from islam countries being incompatible with our culture is a fact
there are more reasons why these people lack basic human dignity, but i refuse to say that it has nothing to do with islam


Yes, yes you do

Quote (kroko89 @ Nov 17 2015 09:35pm)
you talk about issues xxx years ago...^^the muslims still behave like that


What about the KKK? That's still an organisation that performs beatings, stonings and even executions towards black people.
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You all blaming Islam are quite pathetic, European countries are hypocrites too, humans rights etc.. But they're making deals with countries like Qatari or the United Arab Emirates wich are doing all the shit you're talking about. But as long as there is money, it doesn't count. We aren't much better. The same shit goes for China

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Quote (ampoo @ Nov 17 2015 08:33pm)
then you are lucky to have this enlightened minority around you, most of us arent so fortunate

you are right not to blame it ALL on islam, i dont do that as well, but most people from islam countries being incompatible with our culture is a fact
there are more reasons why these people lack basic human dignity, but i refuse to say that it has nothing to do with islam


One of the biggest issues imo
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