Quote (Str1k3 @ 14 Jul 2014 03:57)

Munich isn't playing  Tiki Taka and never will. Munich players a refined version of van Gaals Ball possesive system  refined by Heynkes to make the play faster.
Pep got into a finished top team yet again, Barcas dominace was the work of Frank Rijkaard and not Guardiola-

If van Gaal didn't challange Hoeneß and Rummenigge he still would be coach of Munich.

But he started rotating so he had replacements in case of injuries and that angered the managers because they won only 1-0 against bad teams and even had draws/losses when the keeper was replaced.

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WHERE IS POZER???
CMON GUY, JUST START EXPLAINING SOME SHIT!
70 : 30 possession, dont come with "argentina was better"...

Quote (Str1k3 @ Jul 14 2014 03:20am)

Team wasn't the strongest  in 2006. The team wasn't much different from 2004.

From potential they did better than expected. They were more like 6th strongest team.


He changed the system to a system similar most of the players play in their clubs meaning the system was similar to the system of Bayern Munich.

And guess what system he played 2008? 4-4-2.

If you want to give credit to the 4-2-3-1 system give it to van Gaal. He created that ballpossesive play in Munich

Do you even know why Mourinho is a great coach? He was Gaals assistant and he inherited even the bad habits that get Gaal into trouble.


Against the 3rd rate Team Austria....
The strongest team 2 losses no strong opponent.


Strongest team and again he fucked up tactics.
And Khedira wasn't unknown.
Nor was Özil.
Özil took Diegos role in Bremen.

Khedira played a great season in Stuttgart they became 3rd in championship and made the average striker Gomez shine.
Bayern bought overrated Gomez and Madrid Özil and Khedira.

After that season Bremen and Stuttgart played shit because neither could compensate.


Yeah and it had to be expected after the France game, because Brazil only worked because of Neymar and he was out.
Yet bad game against Ghana.
Bad game against Algeria.
Was the weaker team against France.(We Germans actually expected to drop out)

Brazil played amateur football for 7 Minutes and they received 5 goals. Even Cameroon would have played much better.
Argentinia was an undeserved finalist. Not a single good game and only Netherlands as strong opponent and both played defensive.

Löw has no clue about tactics his tactical knowledge ends at offensive player out defensive player in or the opposite.
He even changed the formation to players the local press requested after the Algeria game.

Look at Van Gaal. He changed the system several times during the game against Costa Rica.
Pinto did the same.
While the game wasn't beautiful too watch it was a highly tactical game. That's something great coaches do.

Where were Löws changes against Argentinia?  Even" shoot at the Defender to receice a corner kicks" is a tactical change.
And that's something he should have done because Argentian defense was solid.

A coach having great results with a weak team is a good coach.
A coach failing with the best team is a bad coach.

I remind you when Munich hired Klinsmann and Bayern Munich was the strongest team in Germany by far.
Bayern Munich played the worst season ever till they fired him and replaced him with Heynkes. And before he got fired he had 2 games with 1:9 goals.

Lahm wrote a book and he said there that everybody knew after 6 weeks that this season gonna suck because he had no tactical understanding and the players had to decided before the game how they wanna play.

Neither Löw nor Klinsmann are good coaches.
Klinsmann got destroyed as Munich Coach.
Löw did worse than the last coach in every club he was coach of.
He won a title when other German teams were concentrating on CL, Uefa Cup and Cup of Cup Winners, while jumping in for a coach receiving a good offer and he won a championship when his club bought players they couldn't pay and went bankcrupt after.
Kinda like FC Aberdeen buys an above average English Club players such as Tottenham or Everton becomes Scottish winner just to become bankcrupt.



And FYI during the time of German National Coaches there are only 2 coaches Germany isn't happy with.
That was Erich Ribbeck who triggered a Revolution similar to France in South Africa and Löw.

Only Ribbeck was worse than Löw. Nobody wanted to be the successor of Vogts because Vogts said he had no clue how to improve the situation and most players on the field were 30+.
Ribbeck was like 4th+ choice.
The team was crap, the tactics were crap, the players hated him, the country hated him.

Löws on the other side is hated because the team is the best for almost 30 years and he got no tactical clue.
He won a title. But Euro 2016 we might not be that lucky and get opponents playing against the Munich system or a coach with tactical understanding.

2 Balcan teams in group stage and we will have massive trouble.
France in Best of 16 and then we might not have the lucky 30 minutes.
What Germans want is a coach knowing what he does having a tactical understandment and changes the formantion if needed.
Th***ern Munich formation will be outdated in Europe at some point and what does he do then?
Spains Tiki Taka also became outdated in Europe and Barca got beaten.

Quote (uhuu @ 14 Jul 2014 05:11)

WHERE IS POZER???
CMON GUY, JUST START EXPLAINING SOME SHIT!
70 : 30 possession, dont come with "argentina was better"...

Quote (SwaYy @ Jul 14 2014 09:02am)

Argentinia was actually the better team this game. Germany were just shitting their pants. Red could've given reds for Höwedes and Neuer aswell. Germany shit team.

Quote (SwaYy @ Jul 14 2014 10:02am)

Argentinia was actually the better team this game. Germany were just shitting their pants. Red could've given reds for Höwedes and Neuer aswell. Germany shit team.