Yeah his treatment of the medical staff from an outside perspective seems like a joke

Not by a longshot. But better than van gaal, that's for shur.
His chelki side in the previous spell remains probably the best counterattacking side in the sport, he managed to win the title last season after a rough patch for chelki without pumping 300 mios.
In direct games, shitted on LvG on several occasions.



He's only somewhat useful in attack, too lazy to track back, fails over half his dribbles and when succeeds he cant neither finish nor cross.

waste of cash.

This post was edited by B4al on Aug 19 2015 10:57am

Tell that to Iker. He spent half a season saying he will start again once he considers he's in form, only to later admit that he doesn't like him and he prefers taller keepers. Or Pedro León and Canales, who were told to wait for a chance they were never given. Or Adán, who was told he'd be the starting keeper until Casillas regained his form, but one week later Iker suffered a 2 month injury and he signed Diego López and never played Adán again...

He isn't as honest with his player as you might think... he uses anyone and anything for what he considers is the team's benefit. I'm not saying it's a bad thing per se (although it's moraly questionable), he's just a hardline utilitarianist, which can be a risk for the people involved with him.

About his teams being fun to watch and all... yes, I agree with you there. My point was that it might not be so fun for certain players to PLAY in those kind of teams. Several players have criticised having to park the bust in his system, because it's not the type of football they are meant to play.

really man, now you too? did you not even try to understand my point? i specifically put the word "almost" in it so that no litte smartass thinks by providing one or two examples he has disproven the whole point. of course it is virtually impossible to not step on anyone's toes in this business but...

now compare those examples to the shit van gaal has pulled with countless of his players... see what i'm getting at? again, the vast majority of mou's ex players who've been asked about him have nothing but good things to say about him while van gaal repeatedly throws his players under the bus and is described as an absolute tyrant... how can you even challenge that?

why so serious mate

You said he had a good relationship with almost all of his former players, I'm not arguing with that... I'm arguing about the part where you said he'd tell you out straight if he doesn't like you. He'll do that if he thinks it will benefit the team; if he thinks it won't then he won't.

Obviously Van Gaal isn't fun to work with either, I'm not saying one would be better off with him... the point I tried to make at the begining of this whole debate was that it depended on the circumstances, as both have complicated characters and ways of doing things, and different players will be better off with different managers. There are plenty of reasons to prefer working with one of them over the other, but what reasons matter most will come down to the player's subjectivity.

fair enough, i can respect that as your opinion. and no doubt, the point you make about player preference is obviously a good one and pretty much undebateable.
my impression, however, is that mou would be a much more pleasant coach to work with overall and that i wouldn't have to fear that he'd publically crucify me if it didn't work out... and i also do think that my chances (no matter where i'm from and how my attitude is) of being treated fairly would be much higher with mourinho too...

To calm things and congratulate Chelki

This post was edited by B4al on Aug 19 2015 12:47pm

I really hope he does great!
Could be awesome work with him and hazard/willian/Oscar.
Moses and traore as well

This post was edited by chelsea11 on Aug 19 2015 12:51pm

Pedro is official?