i'm not defensive, i'm saying there's always shitty fans, don't generalize as "english fan's reputation" because by doing so you insinuate that i too am a bad fan

call it what it is, a few pieces of crap doing dumb shit (just like the nazi lovers in 2018)

happens everywhere

don't try to say games need to be moved lol

foh with your lazy false equivalence, this is a very characteristic and specific issue to english football fans. sure, every nation has its idiots, and football tends to bring out the worst in some people - but english fans have obtained a well deserved reputations for being particularly classless, disrespectful, and ignorant. of course that doesn't mean every single one of them is, don't be silly, but it's certainly a larger problem than in many other nations, refer to the links i provided in my previous post.

and yes, i DO think banning them from hosting international competitions until they solve this problem would be an appropriate measure. seeing as your general approach seems to be to downplay the issue and pretend everyone does it, i assume you don't even acknowledge it's a problem worth addressing, hm?

booing a national anthem =/= chanting nazi propaganda

https://www.espn.com/soccer/report/_/gameId/560302

There's no point trying to reason with him, he just hates the UK and uses bad behaviour from a minority of our fans as a way to attack England generally

Whether it's because we knocked them out in the RD16, animosity over leaving the EU or something harkening back to a distant past is anyone's guess

true, booing national anthems is something MANY english fans REPEATEDLY do, chanting nazi propaganda is something you made up to distract from the former.



that "hate" is pure projection. meanwhile in reality, i repeatedly specified it's about english football fans and not english people in general.

but in your mind it can't be someone criticising a real and current issue, i guess. it just HAS to be some kind of hidden agenda, some kind of deep seated hatred if someone, a GERMAN of all people, dares to point how classless MANY english football fans are - so you tell yourself that it's some irrational animosity. the cope (and projection) is strong with you.

goes to show that you're really not that much different from the nationalist scum harrassing that girl on social media - you simply can't separate politics, sports, and history. here's the thing: your little island is way less important than you seem to assume it is. it's about time you finally learned that lesson. i don't spend my days thinking about the english, plotting how best to smear them - they do a pretty good job of that themselves.

this is only a relevant topic since it's a recurring theme, and england happens to host (and boo) many other nations this summer. i'm well aware it triggers you to no end, but i won't refrain from talking about what media worldwide (including the british press) has been criticising, just because your fragile ego can't deal with it in a reasonable manner...

This post was edited by fender on Jul 8 2021 03:10pm

It’s coming 🏠

The odd bit of it all is he seems to think that people don't see completely through it. He was the same when there was an all English champions league final. Anything to try and lessen the achivement, simply because they are English teams. Sad really.

butthurt united xD



another example of english fans being delusional and looking for excuses concerning valid criticism. boring game with the least shots on goal in recorded CL history. that's a fact. someone who points that out: hAtER!!1!

This post was edited by fender on Jul 8 2021 03:40pm

i'm english
i'm a football fan

insult me more please



should have asked for his realtor's name before that round of 16 match because the english clearly now have some prime fucking real estate up in there

well, no wonder you're making excuses for classless behaviour then...