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Jun 24 2016 04:59pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2016 05:52pm)
ok. still kind of stupid that they have to ship them from europe. at least for clubs with a following like the big names of world football imo. obviously makes sense if you were to order a mainz kit but city...


I suppose it also depends which website you're ordering from.
I mean I know there's sites like worldsoccershop that sometimes offer free shipping, even to Canada.
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Jun 24 2016 05:07pm
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give me a source where cameron said something that could be interpreted in a way that "we can count ourselves lucky ww3 hasnt started already".

i see, having a differentiated view is "forcing your opinion on someone", whereas completely biased rhetoric seems the way to go for you... can't be arrogant if you call others arrogant first, right? so smart...

again, you are the one who seems to feels inferior. asking you to be reasonable and a little more objective, asking you to name some of the "huge number of viable arguments against the eu" instead of resorting to half assed statements like "we just need a free market and we don't need brussels for that" is NOT coming from a feeling of superiority but a genuine interest how you came to these conclusions, what you base them on.

i'm sure your "university education in physics and chemistry" that enables you to realise "what facts are and what not", also allows you to name these "facts" that made you come to the conclusion we'd be better off without the EU. you want to be treated like an adult? why don't you start behaving like one?


Whilst Cameron did not use the phrase "world war 3" he did indeed say that if the UK left Europe it could trigger another war. He then went on to use the sacrifices of past servicemen to nail this home. Even going so far as to have a handful of people that survived the war paraded around so they could tell everyone "war is bad".
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Jun 24 2016 05:32pm
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Whilst Cameron did not use the phrase "world war 3" he did indeed say that if the UK left Europe it could trigger another war. He then went on to use the sacrifices of past servicemen to nail this home. Even going so far as to have a handful of people that survived the war paraded around so they could tell everyone "war is bad".


well, this is clearly fear mongering too, i'm not gonna deny that. obviously doesn't mean "world war 3" or anything like that but it's playing with the emotions of ppl in order to sway a political vote and i obviously disapprove - could you give me a source for that plz?

i just wish the other side would finally admit the same thing about nigel, boris and their fellow conmen who almost exclusively appealed to emotions and deliberately used exaggerations and dishonest arguments, some of which they already started to backpedal on...

also, you promised me earlier to give me some details about your decisionmaking and what specifically you expect to change for the better now that you're out of the EU and i'm really still rather curious about it...

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Jun 24 2016 05:51pm
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well, this is clearly fear mongering too, i'm not gonna deny that. obviously doesn't mean "world war 3" or anything like that but it's playing with the emotions of ppl in order to sway a political vote and i obviously disapprove - could you give me a source for that plz?

i just wish the other side would finally admit the same thing about nigel, boris and their fellow conmen who almost exclusively appealed to emotions and deliberately used exaggerations and dishonest arguments, some of which they already started to backpedal on...

also, you promised me earlier to give me some details about your decisionmaking and what specifically you expect to change for the better now that you're out of the EU and i'm really still rather curious about it...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/08/cameron-brexit-will-increase-risk-of-europe-descending-into-war/

And yeah, I couldn't be arsed in all fairness. I spent most of a day arguing with a different non-brit about my personal reasons (or one of them) in a different thread, and while I thought I got my point across reasonably well and he'd decided to accept my view he just went into the next thread to start trying to get me wound up. That's where all my freedom nonsense came from.

Should all be discussed a few days/weeks from now when everyone isn't on meltdown. From what I've seen the stock market and the £ recovered fairly well throughout the day. With some businesses in the UK actually increasing in value. UK exports are on fire atm with the low £ value.
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Jun 24 2016 06:37pm
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Should all be discussed a few days/weeks from now when everyone isn't on meltdown. From what I've seen the stock market and the £ recovered fairly well throughout the day. With some businesses in the UK actually increasing in value. UK exports are on fire atm with the low £ value.


The market slowly improved over the course of the day simply because the Bank of England injected some 250 billion into the market in an effort to stabilise the uks financial standing.

Make no mistake about it leaving the Eu was a mistake and the young generation will deal with the harsh ramifications for years to come. Democracy was manipulated with three simple lies. Mr ukip and the blonde mess trump wannabe have already started back peddling on promises made. The magic 350 mil we pay the eu every day!! Hahaha! Jesus Christ. So far we've saved 350 mil then, let's start counting every day and see where this so called money goes shall we.

Do you honestly believe that the Eu will allow it to look like leaving will have positive benefits for us?? Do you think we'll get advantageous trade deals? If this were the case.. Like If that actually happened the Eu would crumble, it wouldn't exist anymore. Everyone would leave.

I still haven't read one fact from a brexit supporter that suggests they even know what they're voting for? I've not seen one person tell me why they feel leaving the Eu would benefit them, not without said reason being pure bullshit.

Literally every expert, warned against leaving the Eu. Yet nobody listened. Stephen fucking hawking told us to remain, that should be enough for anyone?

Shambles. Utter shambles.
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Jun 24 2016 07:20pm
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^^^^
The prem won't let idiots ruin it. If the premier league was only/limited to british players it would be fking terrible. Nobody would ever dribble.


The good english players would go abroad. And that's what england need in order for being able to go anywhere in big tournaments
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Jun 24 2016 08:23pm
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The market slowly improved over the course of the day simply because the Bank of England injected some 250 billion into the market in an effort to stabilise the uks financial standing.

Make no mistake about it leaving the Eu was a mistake and the young generation will deal with the harsh ramifications for years to come. Democracy was manipulated with three simple lies. Mr ukip and the blonde mess trump wannabe have already started back peddling on promises made. The magic 350 mil we pay the eu every day!! Hahaha! Jesus Christ. So far we've saved 350 mil then, let's start counting every day and see where this so called money goes shall we.

Do you honestly believe that the Eu will allow it to look like leaving will have positive benefits for us?? Do you think we'll get advantageous trade deals? If this were the case.. Like If that actually happened the Eu would crumble, it wouldn't exist anymore. Everyone would leave.

I still haven't read one fact from a brexit supporter that suggests they even know what they're voting for? I've not seen one person tell me why they feel leaving the Eu would benefit them, not without said reason being pure bullshit.

Literally every expert, warned against leaving the Eu. Yet nobody listened. Stephen fucking hawking told us to remain, that should be enough for anyone?

Shambles. Utter shambles.


nailed it m8

its 350m a week tho (doesnt even include the rebate though, distorted figure anyways)
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Jun 24 2016 08:42pm
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wait a moment, there are no fan shops where you can buy this kind of stuff? you have to order that all online?!



It's semi-easy to find a United, Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid one.

Maybe the occasional Arsenal one.

Every kit I've bought has been from the official city store with the badge on the sleeves and numbers etc. Runs me $90-110 :( every season
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Jun 24 2016 08:44pm
wat did u vote wx
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Jun 24 2016 08:47pm
The fear mongering post-vote by the losers is surpassing the rhetoric of the leave leaders. Britain has never fallen since William the Conqueror but hell, this it the end isnt it?
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