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Aug 3 2014 06:37pm
Quote ( fender @ Aug 3 2014 12:59pm)
look at what they have won in recent years and then look at how much money they spent, look at their transfer balances.
ffp is not working...

and look at how england performed in recent tournaments and tell me again how my point is invalid...




oh hi, back from dodge city? if you were able to read: "well the odds aren't that great obviously but better than tottenham's or everton's for example... (check official odds for reference)"


Dude, serious shit, get your head out your ass. You have been owned numerous times by many people and your only argument is senseless retort or you just don't know when to shut up. The chances of the english teams winning their respective title are higher than those in the bundesliga. By far. It's like someone else said. B Munich has 94% BVB have 4% and rest is split up by the rest of the league. Yes 2% for the rest of the teams.
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Aug 4 2014 01:32am
It's pretty sad that fender brings up a lot of reasonable points and everybody else just focusses on 1 single sentence - which btw is debatable but not wrong at all, because thankfully football is football and everything can happen.
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Aug 4 2014 01:42am
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It's pretty sad that fender brings up a lot of reasonable points and everybody else just focusses on 1 single sentence - which btw is debatable but not wrong at all, because thankfully football is football and everything can happen.


It is wrong, that is why everybody focused on it...
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Aug 4 2014 03:29am
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they are paying ludicrous overprices

shaw for almost 40 mio what the fuck
its a joke



Joke prices I know.

Toni Kroos for €30 million = best purchase of the year B)
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Dude, serious shit, get your head out your ass. You have been owned numerous times by many people and your only argument is senseless retort or you just don't know when to shut up. The chances of the english teams winning their respective title are higher than those in the bundesliga. By far. It's like someone else said. B Munich has 94% BVB have 4% and rest is split up by the rest of the league. Yes 2% for the rest of the teams.


see that's exactly your problem. i make a point, i give you arguments and you think this is about "owning" someone (when in fact what you consider "owning" is just being unable to read and understand a point).
i dunno why you dodge the actual topics and ignore perfectly legitimate questions only to pop up in other thread continuing your little personal crusade but i'm gonna say it again: it's pathetic.

listen, i'm sorry you seem to have a personal problem with me, i wish it wasn't so but let's try to keep this civil and on topic, have a nice day, mate...


Quote (dro94 @ 4 Aug 2014 08:42)
It is wrong, that is why everybody focused on it...


to say other clubs have a shot at the title although it is slim is "wrong"? think about it for a while and when you come to the only possible conclusion you can apologise for being an idiot and then leave this forum in peace...


Quote (ZlatanI @ 4 Aug 2014 08:32)
It's pretty sad that fender brings up a lot of reasonable points and everybody else just focusses on 1 single sentence - which btw is debatable but not wrong at all, because thankfully football is football and everything can happen.


well i though "bayern are probably the biggest favourites amongst them but this is football, you never know" and "the odds aren't that great obviously but better than tottenham's or everton's for example" should have given it away but well, some ppl can't read or just focus on what they think they can refute so they can ignore the real problem or actual point...


just to help you guys focus:

i'm the last person not to admit that last season was boring and i'd hate if bayern continue to dominate like this but...
seeing how english top clubs have become the plaything of foreign sugar daddies, seeing how their national team performs because their talented youth players rarely get a chance to develop and play, seeing how the big spanish clubs completely destroy the transfer market and basically live at the cost of the small clubs i have to say that's a small price to pay and i wouldn't change it just to be able to say i'm fan of the "most attractive" or "most watched" league in the world. but to each their own ofc...
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Aug 4 2014 08:37am
You sound mad. Also hardly anyone here agrees with you on this
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You sound mad. Also hardly anyone here agrees with you on this


hardly anyone agrees with what they THINK i said. if any of you were intelligent and unbiased enough to figure out what i actually said you would realise that it was not as ridiculous as you like to believe...
but well, i'm talking to a guy who thinks it's just simply "wrong" to say a slim chance to challenge for a title is a chance nonetheless...
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Aug 4 2014 09:19am
Quote (fender @ Aug 4 2014 03:50pm)
hardly anyone agrees with what they THINK i said. if any of you were intelligent and unbiased enough to figure out what i actually said you would realise that it was not as ridiculous as you like to believe...
but well, i'm talking to a guy who thinks it's just simply "wrong" to say a slim chance to challenge for a title is a chance nonetheless...


There is a slim chance of finding Atlantis miles underneath the ocean, but I wouldn't call out a random number like a 4 or 5% of it happening. It is much less. You are the one that is biased, I'm not defending the PL at all, I'm just stating the fact that only Bayern are going to win the Bundesliga. Sorry if that isn't intelligent enough for you, genius

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There is a slim chance of finding Atlantis miles underneath the ocean, but I wouldn't call out a random number like a 4 or 5% of it happening. It is much less. You are the one that is biased, I'm not defending the PL at all, I'm just stating the fact that only Bayern are going to win the Bundesliga. Sorry if that isn't intelligent enough for you, genius


dude... seriously?! how can a prediction be a "fact"? how can someone be "wrong" by saying you can't predict for sure what's going to happen in football? you either need to work on your understanding of the concept of predictions and probabilities or it's just a vocabulary issue and you have to translate those words to your mother tongue so you understand my point. i really can't believe you don't get it to be honest...

and i was not the one who made up random numbers trying to prove a point, in fact i said:

Quote (fender @ 3 Aug 2014 20:26)
i already said bayern are probably the biggest favourites, no need to make up completely random and stupid numbers...


but keep dodging the actual topic trying to prove me wrong by acting like you don't even understand the simplest concepts...
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Aug 4 2014 10:32am
Quote (fender @ Aug 4 2014 05:06pm)
dude... seriously?! how can a prediction be a "fact"? how can someone be "wrong" by saying you can't predict for sure what's going to happen in football? you either need to work on your understanding of the concept of predictions and probabilities or it's just a vocabulary issue and you have to translate those words to your mother tongue so you understand my point. i really can't believe you don't get it to be honest...

and i was not the one who made up random numbers trying to prove a point, in fact i said:



but keep dodging the actual topic trying to prove me wrong by acting like you don't even understand the simplest concepts...


What you don't understand is that some predictions are more likely than others. so much so that some predictions can be almost nonsensical whilst others are practically bulletproof. You decide which of those Dortmund winning the league is. Calling Bayern 'favourites' like you might say City are 'favourites' is a dodge in itself, you are implying the chance of Bayern winning the league is similar to the chance of City.

This is what I disagree with:

Quote (fender @ Aug 3 2014 07:15pm)
chelsea or city most likely - maybe united or arsenal or liverpool...
bayern or dortmund most likely - maybe leverkusen or schalke or wolfsburg...
madrid or barcelona most likely - maybe atletico...


See how you are likening Bayern vs Dortmund to Madrid vs Barca or Chelsea to City.

Btw my mother tongue is English, and my knowledge of probabilities is better than most
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