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Apr 12 2017 04:49am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 12 Apr 2017 11:10)
So because a few misbehave it means you can just start smacking people doing nothing wrong?

We've had 4 away games in Europe so far, not heard any complaints about our fans before this.


Just throw coins at everyone, start massive world wide bullshit. But in all fairness English in Spain somehow always results in fights.
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Apr 12 2017 04:54am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 12 Apr 2017 12:10)
So because a few misbehave it means you can just start smacking people doing nothing wrong?

We've had 4 away games in Europe so far, not heard any complaints about our fans before this.


If you misbehave then you get smacked ofc. I can't say if everyone that got smacked misbehaved though, obviously I wasn't there and there's no complete footage of what happened. Out of the 4 injured people, 2 of them were policemen, so it's not like this was a onesided beating.

And it's not "your fans". It's a group of drunk idiots who think they can do whatever they want because they are on vacation. There were also minor incidents in Sevilla during the previous CL round, but that's not the point, there are problems with hooligans from the majority of teams that visit here, because out of the whole lot you are always going to get some idiots that can't (or don't want to) control themselves.

It's good that the authorities here are keeping savage behaviour in check, regardless of where it happens and what hooligans are involved.
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Apr 12 2017 05:31am
Quote (zarkadon @ Apr 12 2017 10:54am)
If you misbehave then you get smacked ofc. I can't say if everyone that got smacked misbehaved though, obviously I wasn't there and there's no complete footage of what happened. Out of the 4 injured people, 2 of them were policemen, so it's not like this was a onesided beating.

And it's not "your fans". It's a group of drunk idiots who think they can do whatever they want because they are on vacation. There were also minor incidents in Sevilla during the previous CL round, but that's not the point, there are problems with hooligans from the majority of teams that visit here, because out of the whole lot you are always going to get some idiots that can't (or don't want to) control themselves.

It's good that the authorities here are keeping savage behaviour in check, regardless of where it happens and what hooligans are involved.


"As I was talking to them there was a charge. Police officers just charged a group of Leicester fans who were, as far as I could tell, just walking past and chatting to each other.
"Three of them were pushed to the floor and hit with batons and bundled into the back of vans and taken away."

He said: "We [witnessed] police targeting groups of people, smashing beers from tables and even them throwing chairs towards the fans as well charging with batons and riot shields."

People chatting in Madrid. Such savage behaviour must be kept in check. :mellow:

Plenty of people on the forum saying they are sat in the area they were told to sit in, drinking beer as always and chanting and getting hit for it. Undoubtedly there are people there causing trouble, but there are plenty of people getting hit that are doing nothing.
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Quote (WNxIrvine @ 12 Apr 2017 13:31)
"As I was talking to them there was a charge. Police officers just charged a group of Leicester fans who were, as far as I could tell, just walking past and chatting to each other.
"Three of them were pushed to the floor and hit with batons and bundled into the back of vans and taken away."

He said: "We [witnessed] police targeting groups of people, smashing beers from tables and even them throwing chairs towards the fans as well charging with batons and riot shields."

People chatting in Madrid. Such savage behaviour must be kept in check. :mellow:

Plenty of people on the forum saying they are sat in the area they were told to sit in, drinking beer as always and chanting and getting hit for it. Undoubtedly there are people there causing trouble, but there are plenty of people getting hit that are doing nothing.


If you're quoting parts of the article you posted, you might as well quote this bit too:

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However, supporter June Webb - who was in the square - said some ticketless fans told her they liked to make a nuisance of themselves and "expected trouble later".


Obviously the people who were bruised are all going to be saying they didn't do anything, and Leicester forums and local media will have an inevitable bias. The thing is the majority of Leicestar fans that were in Plaza Mayor weren't asked to leave, it was just a few (8 from what I read)... nobody can know for certain if it was all off the kicked out hooligans that were drinking, pissing on the street and injuring policemen... but if there were innocent fans among the troublemakers then common sense should tell them to stay away from those idiots or shit can happen to them otherwise. Like I said, it's always a few idiots that ruin everything for the majority of "normal" fans.

If you look at videos of the hooligans chanting during the afternoon (before the incidents), you can already see that the Plaza Mayor is full of litter and beer cans all over the place... it's not exemplary behaviour, and I'm actually surprised it took the police that long to establish some order, because on a normal day if a group of friends start drinking in the middle of the Plaza Mayor then 2 minutes later they'll find themselves with a 600€ fine and their drinks confiscated.

Not sure why you are upset about this. You should be celebrating it... if spanish fans cause problems in the UK then I hope the bobbies give them a proper whacking.

This post was edited by zarkadon on Apr 12 2017 07:43am
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If you're quoting parts of the article you posted, you might as well quote this bit too:



Obviously the people who were bruised are all going to be saying they didn't do anything, and Leicester forums and local media will have an inevitable bias. The thing is the majority of Leicestar fans that were in Plaza Mayor weren't asked to leave, it was just a few (8 from what I read)... nobody can know for certain if it was all off the kicked out hooligans that were drinking, pissing on the street and injuring policemen... but if there were innocent fans among the troublemakers then common sense should tell them to stay away from those idiots or shit can happen to them otherwise. Like I said, it's always a few idiots that ruin everything for the majority of "normal" fans.

If you look at videos of the hooligans chanting during the afternoon (before the incidents), you can already see that the Plaza Mayor is full of litter and beer cans all over the place... it's not exemplary behaviour, and I'm actually surprised it took the police that long to establish some order, because on a normal day if a group of friends start drinking in the middle of the Plaza Mayor then 2 minutes later they'll find themselves with a 600€ fine and their drinks confiscated.

Not sure why you are upset about this. You should be celebrating it... if spanish fans cause problems in the UK then I hope the bobbies give them a proper whacking.


I'm not upset about the troublemakers getting hit. I'm upset about the bystanders getting hit. And it's alright saying that the leicester forum would be bias, but the same people complaining now are the same people who have been posting about ALL the away games, and not once before today have they had any complaints. I refuse to believe that between Sevilla away and Atletico away these fans have turned into "hooligans".

And how can they stay away from the idiots when they were told by the police to drink in a certain area. Are they just supposed to stay in their hotel rooms and have their day ruined because some heavy handed police can't tell the difference between a troublemaker and innocent bystander?
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I'm not upset about the troublemakers getting hit. I'm upset about the bystanders getting hit. And it's alright saying that the leicester forum would be bias, but the same people complaining now are the same people who have been posting about ALL the away games, and not once before today have they had any complaints. I refuse to believe that between Sevilla away and Atletico away these fans have turned into "hooligans".

And how can they stay away from the idiots when they were told by the police to drink in a certain area. Are they just supposed to stay in their hotel rooms and have their day ruined because some heavy handed police can't tell the difference between a troublemaker and innocent bystander?


I mean, when you're in a crowd of 100 guys, move away from the ones that are arguing with the police and stick to the more peaceful fans. I understand that if you're drunk and surrounded by chants it can be difficult to smell the trouble and spot the rotten apples, but it's obvious you are more likely to get hit if you're next to the ones that are causing trouble, because if a fight breaks out you're likely to become collateral damage :P
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Shame Wes ain't fit, he's earned the right to walk us out on one of our biggest nights ever, bet he's gutted.

Going to need to be at our absolute best to have anything to play for back at the KP. Hopefully the players go out and just enjoy themselves, if we over think it or get nervous we'll be walked over.

So excited for this though. Come on you foxes!
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