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Feb 24 2017 04:19pm
Quote (ampoo @ Feb 24 2017 10:08pm)
yeah, just look at the shitstorm right now (which is exaggerated in my opinion)
as irvine pointed out, putting all romance aside he did a terrible job this season

i think the owners took the image damage into account, but i would also say that relegation, losing loads of money and like half your squad would hurt the club far more
i have seen some "keep ranieri even if relegated and then just walk into the prem again" comments.....the championship is pretty rough


Exactly. We've always been a relatively small supported club and one title win, in the long run, counts for very little.

Ranieri is a very nice guy, and we all love him, but he's shown zero ability this season that he could turn our bad form around. It's easy managing a team in form, which is exactly what he had when taking over, all the players still buzzing from the great escape. In the end, you know where nice guys finish though.

In a few years, a statue will be built outside the KP and ranieri will be invited back to unveil it and no matter what happens between now and then he'll get the hero's reception he deserves.
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Feb 24 2017 05:05pm
Well personally I ws pretty sure they wouldn't relegate. 17th place I predicted and I still stood by it when Ranieri was sacked... but ofc that's just my prediction and now there's no way of knowing what would have happened.

If you want to challenge the big guys in the long run you need money and as much support as possible. By making such a pragmatic decision they have lost an important part of their appeal to foreigners, and that is probably going to stop them from growing as much, as they'll be losing a lot of their potential income. At least that's just my opinion.
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Feb 25 2017 01:00am
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Hope Leicester go down


great post my friend! hope so too! :)
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Feb 25 2017 02:39am
is the situation really that bad? and is it really mainly ranieri's fault?
i mean... obviously i don't follow leicester closely but considering how he won you guys a the league i FEEL he deserved a little more patience...
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Feb 25 2017 02:54am
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is the situation really that bad? and is it really mainly ranieri's fault?
i mean... obviously i don't follow leicester closely but considering how he won you guys a the league i FEEL he deserved a little more patience...


The situation is pretty dire, we've been woeful all season. But no, I wouldn't say it was mainly Ranieri's fault, I'd be more inclined to blame Rudkin for his dreadful ability of signing players which we desperately needed. Saying that, ranieri has to take some of the blame for our form, some of his decisions have been ludicrous and at the end of the day it's his job to motivate these players and change them if he can't.
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The situation is pretty dire, we've been woeful all season. But no, I wouldn't say it was mainly Ranieri's fault, I'd be more inclined to blame Rudkin for his dreadful ability of signing players which we desperately needed. Saying that, ranieri has to take some of the blame for our form, some of his decisions have been ludicrous and at the end of the day it's his job to motivate these players and change them if he can't.


i see. of course a manager has to take some blame for such a drop in performance, no doubt about that. i wasn't trying to say that it's not his fault at all, i just thought that after the incredible achievements of last season, he maybe deserved some extra credit - despite the fact that football is a cutthroat business where there's not much space for loyalty and idealism.
i mean realistically speaking, it's not that leicester doing SO much worse than they should realistically be expected to, do they? sure, they are reigning champions but that was a freak season and i think ppl should judge them for doing worse than maybe spot 6-11 in the table and not their distance to the absolute top...
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Feb 25 2017 03:20am
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i see. of course a manager has to take some blame for such a drop in performance, no doubt about that. i wasn't trying to say that it's not his fault at all, i just thought that after the incredible achievements of last season, he maybe deserved some extra credit - despite the fact that football is a cutthroat business where there's not much space for loyalty and idealism.
i mean realistically speaking, it's not that leicester doing SO much worse than they should realistically be expected to, do they? sure, they are reigning champions but that was a freak season and i think ppl should judge them for doing worse than maybe spot 6-11 in the table and not their distance to the absolute top...


That's the trouble though isn't it. The team ISN'T being judged by the amount of points from the top, as you pointed out nobody expected us to keep competing at the top. The team is being judged for being just 1 point from the drop, and while we shouldn't be hammering the league again, we should definitely be higher than that, especially considering we broke our transfer record multiple times over the summer.

Hopefully come summer time we can start again, get Rudkin out and get someone in who actually knows how to close out a deal in, instead of penny pinching until it's too late.

Ranieri possibly should have been given more time, but there are 13 league games left and we need 19 points to hit the magic 40 mark. The decision had to be made at a time where there were enough games left to make a difference. (although I'm still not sure if it will)
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Feb 25 2017 03:40am
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That's the trouble though isn't it. The team ISN'T being judged by the amount of points from the top, as you pointed out nobody expected us to keep competing at the top. The team is being judged for being just 1 point from the drop, and while we shouldn't be hammering the league again, we should definitely be higher than that, especially considering we broke our transfer record multiple times over the summer.

Hopefully come summer time we can start again, get Rudkin out and get someone in who actually knows how to close out a deal in, instead of penny pinching until it's too late.

Ranieri possibly should have been given more time, but there are 13 league games left and we need 19 points to hit the magic 40 mark. The decision had to be made at a time where there were enough games left to make a difference. (although I'm still not sure if it will)


so basically he pulled a wenger? i see, that is indeed problematic considering how much quality you lost in kanté.
well, how realistic is it to get rid of rudkin if, let's say, you barely avoid relegation or only improve slightly under the new manager? these kind of positions tend to be a lot more complicated to get rid off - at least here in germany. i guess what i'm trying to ask is if he's a personal friend and has the trust of the owner or if it's likely that he will get sacked too if results don't improve significantly.
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so basically he pulled a wenger? i see, that is indeed problematic considering how much quality you lost in kanté.
well, how realistic is it to get rid of rudkin if, let's say, you barely avoid relegation or only improve slightly under the new manager? these kind of positions tend to be a lot more complicated to get rid off - at least here in germany. i guess what i'm trying to ask is if he's a personal friend and has the trust of the owner or if it's likely that he will get sacked too if results don't improve significantly.


Hard to tell really. He's been with us in one way or another for years and years, but only became director of football 2? 3? Years ago. Whether he could be demoted back to head coach and someone else in to replace him has to be on the cards.

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Feb 25 2017 04:28am
Wenger got ton of years coaching Arsenal without win a shit and Claudio just won a fucking PREMIER LEAGUE For a team what probably never think even to play EL


disgusting
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