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Jun 10 2018 12:16pm
Quote (Rehmos @ 10 Jun 2018 19:53)
I, for my life cannot understand why and how anyone of Turkish descent living in Germany (having been brought up there, basically living there since you were born) can support the values and ideas that erdogan represents.

not just these two, Turkish people in general.. it seems like they are a majority in Germany...


Bad press for these two, it's not bad because they "support" something or someone, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't show it publicly. You as a professional footballer can reach so many lives and you shouldn't be influenced by politics or political values.


Just my 2 cents.


The fact that Erdogan found more support for his referendum among Turks in Europe than in Turkey blows my mind tbh.
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Jun 10 2018 12:19pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Jun 10 2018 08:16pm)
The fact that Erdogan found more support for his referendum among Turks in Europe than in Turkey blows my mind tbh.


That's what I'm saying.. how can you support his values and views if you have been brought up in a country, like Germany for example?

can't understand.

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Jun 10 2018 12:32pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 10 Jun 2018 20:16)
The fact that Erdogan found more support for his referendum among Turks in Europe than in Turkey blows my mind tbh.


Quote (Rehmos @ 10 Jun 2018 20:19)
That's what I'm saying.. how can you support his values and views if you have been brought up in a country, like Germany for example?

can't understand.


we didnt exactly get the turkish elite, but mostly "traditional" families from rural areas, who are the bulk of erdogan supporters nowadays and those made sure their children would grow up to be the same
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Jun 10 2018 06:46pm
Quote (ampoo @ Jun 10 2018 04:07pm)
thank god the antifa team with googh and abumalek has arrived

the national team represents this country and i dont want players in it that call a foreign, islamist dictator, who has insulted our country with every nazi/fascist or even racial insult that you can possibly imagine, "my president"
if you dont have a problem with that, fine, but stop these stupid accusations

is that really all?

gündogan and özil have exposed themselves and they have never sincerely apologised

as a matter of fact THEY are playing for us for money and glory, not the other way around



exactly the opposite, i gladly trade success for integrity


vague suppositions antifa abumalek and googh ^^ --> i have no ideology
I won't talk about myself but to let you know about abumalek ... he is a german (migrant) and sucessfull (self-made millionaire)
You was supporting a ppd (afd, in another topic) and you know what gauland (one of their leaders ) stated about boateng : People like him as footballer but dont want him as neighbour, i don't say that all ppl in germany are like him.
"simply not true xd" "muslims dont belong to germany, the islam is not a part of germany"
But be honest to urself you are a bayern fan or not? Do you rly think you wouldnt like him as neighbour? What if the guy is not a prof footballer? will you like him lessly?
I dont know alot about you but you are so focused on success that you cannot even be happy with a good performance of your club vs madrid in the semi finals btw sorri for an eidetic memory.

and @fender what you said about merkel ... so you dont know what merkel said xd and it is ok as politican but not as footballer? yikes you are alrdy applying double standards while being deluded

This post was edited by googh on Jun 10 2018 06:52pm
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Quote (googh @ 10 Jun 2018 20:46)
vague suppositions antifa abumalek and googh ^^ --> i have no ideology
I won't talk about myself but to let you know about abumalek ... he is a german (migrant) and sucessfull (self-made millionaire)
You was supporting a ppd (afd, in another topic) and you know what gauland (one of their leaders ) stated about boateng : People like him as footballer but dont want him as neighbour, i don't say that all ppl in germany are like him.
"simply not true xd" "muslims dont belong to germany, the islam is not a part of germany"
But be honest to urself you are a bayern fan or not? Do you rly think you wouldnt like him as neighbour? What if the guy is not a prof footballer? will you like him lessly?
I dont know alot about you but you are so focused on success that you cannot even be happy with a good performance of your club vs madrid in the semi finals btw sorri for an eidetic memory.

and @fender what you said about merkel ... so you dont know what merkel said xd and it is ok as politican but not as footballer? yikes you are alrdy applying double standards while being deluded


oh wow!!! we have another millionaire here on the off-topic section for the forum the video game for diablo II
so many of them manage to make their way here



:D ;) B)

This post was edited by excellence on Jun 10 2018 06:53pm
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oh wow!!! we have another millionaire here on the off-topic section for the forum the video game for diablo II
so many of them manage to make their way here

http://www.pngall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Trollface-PNG-Image.png

:D ;) B)


^^ dude take it as an unnecessary information he is a friend of me but tbh he is a guy who will never wish you guys having less than him i just wanted to share another fact :), take it or leave it but dont make fun out of it bcos i don't try to troll you. But no i m not a millionaire if you think so xd. you must imagine if boateng wouldnt be there some1 else could have his role (a white german) :P same to abumalek he is just stealing the job of the german people with his own hand made company paired with years of work and a bit of luck ;) ... its quite boring and i wont reveal more than i already did :)

Quote (zarkadon @ Jun 10 2018 07:16pm)
The fact that Erdogan found more support for his referendum among Turks in Europe than in Turkey blows my mind tbh.


that's an interesting fact but he focuses the voices from outside alot. I dont understand it either but alot of people dont like him aswell and dont even go to vote so basically the voting majority is his. Another fact/ problem is the nationalism of the people from there paired with racism aswell ;)

This post was edited by googh on Jun 10 2018 07:22pm
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Quote (googh @ 11 Jun 2018 02:46)
vague suppositions antifa abumalek and googh ^^ --> i have no ideology
I won't talk about myself but to let you know about abumalek ... he is a german (migrant) and sucessfull (self-made millionaire)
You was supporting a ppd (afd, in another topic) and you know what gauland (one of their leaders ) stated about boateng : People like him as footballer but dont want him as neighbour, i don't say that all ppl in germany are like him.
"simply not true xd" "muslims dont belong to germany, the islam is not a part of germany"
But be honest to urself you are a bayern fan or not? Do you rly think you wouldnt like him as neighbour? What if the guy is not a prof footballer? will you like him lessly?
I dont know alot about you but you are so focused on success that you cannot even be happy with a good performance of your club vs madrid in the semi finals btw sorri for an eidetic memory.

and @fender what you said about merkel ... so you dont know what merkel said xd and it is ok as politican but not as footballer? yikes you are alrdy applying double standards while being deluded


what are you talking about, boateng is everyones favorite neighbor B)
not to mention that 99.9% of humankind would want to live in his neighborhood
that gauland statement was stupid and wrong
our boss is a good lad and proper german, who would be a decent person with or without football
however i will stick with my opinion that islam, as an ideology, does not belong here and it never will

i was happy with our performances against real, you must have missed something there :p

p.s: if abumakek is a millionaire i am the emperor of china
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Jun 15 2018 03:08pm
Meinungsfreiheit? Aber weinen wenn man seine eigene Meinung äußert/zeigt.
Dikator? Was ist dann Trump, Putin oder eine Merkel, die Waffendeals mit Dikatoren macht?
Heuchler Pack. Herrenrasse xD
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Quote (Joy @ 15 Jun 2018 22:08)
Meinungsfreiheit? Aber weinen wenn man seine eigene Meinung äußert/zeigt.
Dikator? Was ist dann Trump, Putin oder eine Merkel, die Waffendeals mit Dikatoren macht?
Heuchler Pack. Herrenrasse xD


niemand weint. niemand sagt, dass sie ihre meinung nicht sagen dürfen - wir sind hier ja nicht in der türkei wo man eingesperrt wird wenn man die falschen politiker unterstützt.

meinungsfreiheit bedeutet, dass sie das recht haben das zu machen - aber nicht, dass wir das gut finden müssen. thema verfehlt, versetzung gefährdet...
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Jun 16 2018 01:35am
"dass wir das nicht gut finden"
lustig, das ganze thema grenzt fast schon an öffentliches lynchen und ist nur ein vorwand um seinem eigenen rassismus luft zu machen
demokratie hat in deutschland noch nie eine große rolle gespielt sonst würde man keine deals mit dikatoren, freundschaften mit terroristen etc pflegen
es geht um interessen, nichts anderes und hier speziell ist es rassismus

eingesperrt in der türkei? daran merkt man wie geblendet du von den medien bist. meine gesamte in der türkei ansässige familie ist gegen ihren presidenten und das drücken sie auch öffentlich in form von demos aus. keiner von denen hat jemals ein gefängnis von innen gesehen

du scheinst die schule besucht zu haben und der versetzung stand wahrscheinlich auch nichts im wege aber wie die welt wirklich tickt hast du in deinen lebensjahren noch nicht herausfinden können
aber keine sorge denn du bist nicht alleine, so ist es bei vielen menschen. wo würden die rechtspopulisten sonst ihre stimmen herbekommen

viel spass noch beim hassen, hetzen und heucheln
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