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Sep 26 2017 02:13pm
havent seen the handball, but bale could have gotten a pen there

horrible foul by weigl btw xd

cmon bvb!
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Sep 26 2017 02:41pm
really sucks to get utterly destroyed by the refs twice in a row. hope this was the last time for this CL season otherwise it's gonna be an early exit...


Quote (ampoo @ 26 Sep 2017 21:13)
havent seen the handball, but bale could have gotten a pen there


for that dive?!

Quote (ampoo @ 26 Sep 2017 21:13)
horrible foul by weigl btw


nop, he had to make that to break up the play. ofc the yellow was deserved, even though it was his first one, because it was a clear tactical foul...

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Sep 26 2017 03:21pm
overall clearly deserved win for real

tough luck for ramos, but this was a pen lol

that high line of dortmund already weaknesses against gladbach, real is good enough to score from that

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really sucks to get utterly destroyed by the refs twice in a row. hope this was the last time for this CL season otherwise it's gonna be an early exit...




for that dive?!



nop, he had to make that to break up the play. ofc the yellow was deserved, even though it was his first one, because it was a clear tactical foul...


yeah solely the refs fault
so much for bias

i watched the scene only once, but sokratis slide into his foot? whatever

of course he had to stop him, still a bad challenge
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Sep 26 2017 04:17pm
Quote (ampoo @ 26 Sep 2017 22:21)
overall clearly deserved win for real

tough luck for ramos, but this was a pen lol

that high line of dortmund already weaknesses against gladbach, real is good enough to score from that



yeah solely the refs fault
so much for bias

i watched the scene only once, but sokratis slide into his foot? whatever

of course he had to stop him, still a bad challenge


stay mad. you know as well as me that one man down and 0-1 this is a completely different match for real - and let's not forget the 2nd penalty. and still dortmund had their chances and only were finished when they risked everything trying to get at least a draw...
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stay mad. you know as well as me that one man down and 0-1 this is a completely different match for real - and let's not forget the 2nd penalty. and still dortmund had their chances and only were finished when they risked everything trying to get at least a draw...


the pen is one thing, but you really want a red card for a deflection 50cm away from the man? what the
the ball isnt even going in

real could have finished game before all that by the way

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the pen is one thing, but you really want a red card for a deflection 50cm away from the man? what the
the ball isnt even going in


are you sure? to me it looked like the ball was going in - which ofc is the difference between red and yellow if you aren't aware.
that's why i said just yellow for carvajal's handball in the box...

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real could have finished game before all that by the way


they had good chances before, that much is true. but dortmund also had good chances throughout the game. there is a difference however: that is something the teams have messed up themselves. this, however, is something the ref fucked up for them. ofc you don't want to acknowledge that but yeah, this would and should have been a completely different match. bosz wouldn't have had to made the risky subs and system change either around the 60th minute...

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are you sure? to me it looked like the ball was going in - which ofc is the difference between red and yellow if you aren't aware.
that's why i said just yellow for carvajal's handball in the box...


rather sure yes, they showed all kinds of replays on sky and the pundits said the same thing

they were divided on the handball though, 2 out of 4 think that it wasnt a pen since it was a close deflection while ramos didnt have his balance

would be an interesting one for a video ref
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rather sure yes, they showed all kinds of replays on sky and the pundits said the same thing

they were divided on the handball though, 2 out of 4 think that it wasnt a pen since it was a close deflection while ramos didnt have his balance

would be an interesting one for a video ref


which is complete bs ofc, close deflection or not, ramos' hand clearly has no business there beside his head in the six yard box...



i mean just look at this, he clearly moves his hand towards the ball, and the angle it is deflected from navas still looks like it goes into the goal imo...
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which is complete bs ofc, close deflection or not, ramos' hand clearly has no business there beside his head in the six yard box...

[VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCwZn2Dyav4[/VIDEO]

i mean just look at this, he clearly moves his hand towards the ball, and the angle it is deflected from navas still looks like it goes into the goal imo...



He seems to be moving his hands before the ball even comes to him... and u sure it's going in without Ramos hands
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which is complete bs ofc, close deflection or not, ramos' hand clearly has no business there beside his head in the six yard box...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCwZn2Dyav4

i mean just look at this, he clearly moves his hand towards the ball, and the angle it is deflected from navas still looks like it goes into the goal imo...


that perspective isnt too great to see if the ball is going in or not
from the other side it looked like its going parallel to the goalline

ramos didnt do anything on purpose, he was ready to clear the ball himself until the gk deflected it
thats what i meant earlier with "tough luck", clear pen and wrong place at the wrong time for ramos
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