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Feb 23 2018 03:52am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 23 2018 08:53am)
Everyone recognizes that united are not as dominant as they used to be. Thats not contested.

That doesn't mean a very intelligent and successful coach needs to be let go for playing strategically and defensively, or that its somehow not 'real football' being played when you are second in the league and still in the champions league.

'real football' isn't just attacking football that appeases rival fans with attention deficit disorders.
Real football isnt just football where you shoot more and win. Draws and losing are a part of the game too. So is defense. So is strategy.

Bringing this sort of criticism up right after a draw or loss and ignoring the success is reactionary garbage.

Leicester City have 110 fewer shots than Man United this season in the PL.
Are they not playing real football?
Man Utd have allowed the fewest goals in the league, but have scored as much as arsenal and more than chelsea.How is their football any more real?

Yes it would be great if we could run through every team no matter how good they are and no matter where its played, and never have a bad game.
That option isn't on the table right now.

This '3rd rate' spanish team has a better home record than Real Madrid, but are weaker in away games.
I would much rather we play intelligently with what we have than throw caution to the wind to appease naysayers.
Losing to sevilla wouldn't do us any good. Now we have a better chance to advance with a win in the 2nd leg.


First off, utd and Leicester should never be a comparison, we're utter minnows compared to utd.

No one is saying it's not effective or intelligent, people are saying it's boring. Like i said, you can dress it up however you want, you've compared yourself to arsenal, who haven't had any real investment for years now, and Chelsea, where Conte is under pressure a year after winning the league for the dross he's putting out.

You can say bla bla don't need to appease rival fans, you're absolutely right, you do however need to appease the thousands chanting "attack attack attack" in your own stadium.
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Feb 23 2018 04:13am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ Feb 23 2018 10:52am)
First off, utd and Leicester should never be a comparison, we're utter minnows compared to utd.

No one is saying it's not effective or intelligent, people are saying it's boring. Like i said, you can dress it up however you want, you've compared yourself to arsenal, who haven't had any real investment for years now, and Chelsea, where Conte is under pressure a year after winning the league for the dross he's putting out.

You can say bla bla don't need to appease rival fans, you're absolutely right, you do however need to appease the thousands chanting "attack attack attack" in your own stadium.


This 100%

Can't imagine a United fan being happy with these kind of performances.
Arsenal has nothing to do with this topic, so no point in bringing it in. (even tho I'm also not happy with our performances)
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Feb 23 2018 05:25am
2nd in EPL + high chance of reaching top 8 in Europe
Fans getting mad :bonk:
Meanwhile, my team fighting relegation in Brasil D1 :lol:

Lets say Mourinho gives the fans what they want...a lot of dribbling....clearly not the strength, so they'll start losing....
What will be the next chant?
Pointless

Honestly, who cares about fan boys wanting more "dribble dribble" on the pitch
Only thing that matters is the result

Still too early to tell if the season will be a success or failure, but if the only critique is the way they are getting results because fans today want video game futebol
Seems they are doing fine...

However, it's not a good sign if you don't have the ability to change your style at least vs. lower tier opponents

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Feb 23 2018 05:28am
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Feb 23 2018 06:01am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ Feb 23 2018 04:52am)
First off, utd and Leicester should never be a comparison, we're utter minnows compared to utd.

No one is saying it's not effective or intelligent, people are saying it's boring. Like i said, you can dress it up however you want, you've compared yourself to arsenal, who haven't had any real investment for years now, and Chelsea, where Conte is under pressure a year after winning the league for the dross he's putting out.

You can say bla bla don't need to appease rival fans, you're absolutely right, you do however need to appease the thousands chanting "attack attack attack" in your own stadium.


Im questioning the principles and applying the reasons given to other teams.
If low scoring games or a low number of shots makes it shit and not real football then apply the standard elsewhere if you really believe that.
If its not valid then its not valid.

If 'its boring for to me watch' is the criticism i addressed it. I dont care. i prefer smarter football and its still 'real' football.
Im not the average mouth-breathing fan. I have realistic expectations and analyses.
I can be unsatisfied with the performances or results of a particular game and want them to do better without saying oh man this is all so terrible time to fire the coach and pretend we're the worst.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 23 2018 06:03am
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Mourinho is like a defiant child, whose lollipop got stolen too many times by Pep and co...

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Feb 23 2018 10:09am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ Feb 23 2018 05:52pm)
First off, utd and Leicester should never be a comparison, we're utter minnows compared to utd.

No one is saying it's not effective or intelligent, people are saying it's boring. Like i said, you can dress it up however you want, you've compared yourself to arsenal, who haven't had any real investment for years now, and Chelsea, where Conte is under pressure a year after winning the league for the dross he's putting out.

You can say bla bla don't need to appease rival fans, you're absolutely right, you do however need to appease the thousands chanting "attack attack attack" in your own stadium.


the chants come up when we chase a goal to level or lead.
unless you are lvg, then the chants means to stop playing boring football. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-van-gaal-fans-10550860

saf typically plays like this on away european games but no one says anything. give jose a break.
this sevilla results not the greatest. but its sensible. its 2 legged not a one off knock out like fa cup.
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Feb 23 2018 05:59pm
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/684235/Man-Utd-Anthony-Martial-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League-RMC-Champions-League

future bayern legend B)

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Quote (ampoo @ 24 Feb 2018 00:59)
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/684235/Man-Utd-Anthony-Martial-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League-RMC-Champions-League

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Hmmm, you can probably find someone more suited to replace Lewa than Martial.
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Feb 23 2018 06:24pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 24 Feb 2018 01:23)
Hmmm, you can probably find someone more suited to replace Lewa than Martial.


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Quote (zarkadon @ 23 Feb 2018 20:23)
Hmmm, you can probably find someone more suited to replace Lewa than Martial.

Mario Götze is more of a CAM though my friend
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