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Dec 27 2017 04:11am
Quote (ChaoCheeBye @ Dec 27 2017 07:44am)
jose is still jose isnt he?
always finding excuses whenever and where ever his teams dont do well.
But people still always fall for it. now everyone is talking more about him and not his team failures.
But this time i do feel for jose. any other season we would have been top or 2nd but with the gap not as big. -_-


No, people are talking about both.
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Dec 27 2017 04:49am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 27 Dec 2017 11:04)
Money spent in 2 years isnt the whole picture.
When you start with a worse roster and your previous best players get old and/or leave, a couple big signings doesn't magically turn you into world beaters.
Especially when the market is blowing up and 'good' players cost a ton. (and when city spent more and have a crazy good season)



realistically who are they going to bring in that is better? Hes one of the best in the world.

MU is significantly better than they were in just a short time.
Mou has a fantastic track record. I also like how he views and reacts to things. very smart dude and hes not afraid to say true things that trigger people.

I'm not the type to get hysterical and want to sack guys when the team has a few bad games or for some superficial ADHD reason like playing defensively when its smart to do so.
I think its something that is overly done across many sports. Its looking for a scapegoat and then the team struggles from one transition period to another.


That's exaclty what Manu did, how many coaches did you had in the last 4 years ? One more, one less, what's the difference?

Mou is a prick, and despite city having a crazy season, parking rhe bus against them is pathetic looking at your squad.

Better coaches ? I could name 2 easily, Enrique and Tuchel.
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Dec 27 2017 05:09am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 27 2017 10:43am)
we have the cucks saying its a disgrace, but is he wrong? no.
rebuilding a struggling team by spending less than other major clubs and being expected to win the title within two years is a tough task.

Meanwhile we're on pace for our best finish since SAF and have returned to the champions league.

but hey they hit a rough patch so he must be bad.


Van Gaal finished top 4 3 years ago, after spending hundreds of millions. The season after he got 5th. Then he get sacked and Jose got 5th in the league, winning the Europa instead of the FA cup and spending another £200m+

Point is, Mourinho didn't have a team to rebuild - Van Gaal did.

Also LOL at 'spending less than other major clubs', factually incorrect.
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Dec 27 2017 05:33am
Quote (DoWN_DeaTH @ Dec 27 2017 05:49am)
That's exaclty what Manu did, how many coaches did you had in the last 4 years ? One more, one less, what's the difference?

we are turning a corner and now have a very good manager. going back to that would be dumb.

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Mou is a prick, and despite city having a crazy season, parking rhe bus against them is pathetic looking at your squad.

Better coaches ? I could name 2 easily, Enrique and Tuchel.


this is what im talking about. im not concerned with impressing or entertaining rival fans by doing stupid things.
Id much rather he manage intelligently. playing recklessly in that game would have been retarded, especially without pogba. He recognizes the situations and adjusts accordingly.
Nothing pathetic about a close 1-2 loss to a team on an incredible run.

It wasnt even a case of heavy bus parking. There were some opportunities and some open play. City just did a great job of pressuring and stopping us from maintaining possession and scored a clunky winner.

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Van Gaal finished top 4 3 years ago, after spending hundreds of millions. The season after he got 5th. Then he get sacked and Jose got 5th in the league, winning the Europa instead of the FA cup and spending another £200m+

Point is, Mourinho didn't have a team to rebuild - Van Gaal did.


Ofcourse he still had a team to rebuild. We aren't liverpool. Finishing fourth once in three years and busting out in groups isn't considered a success. The goal is to be the best in the world.
Its also clear there is more rebuilding to be done for Man Utd to be the best once again, which is exactly what he was saying in the interview.

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Also LOL at 'spending less than other major clubs', factually incorrect.

how daft are you exactly?
we just got done talking about how man city spent more.
Ac milan just spent 170M. PSG dropped 200m on one player AND acquired mbappe and a couple other guys.
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Dec 27 2017 06:23am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 27 2017 12:33pm)
we are turning a corner and now have a very good manager. going back to that would be dumb.



this is what im talking about. im not concerned with impressing or entertaining rival fans by doing stupid things.
Id much rather he manage intelligently. playing recklessly in that game would have been retarded, especially without pogba. He recognizes the situations and adjusts accordingly.
Nothing pathetic about a close 1-2 loss to a team on an incredible run.

It wasnt even a case of heavy bus parking. There were some opportunities and some open play. City just did a great job of pressuring and stopping us from maintaining possession and scored a clunky winner.


Ofcourse he still had a team to rebuild. We aren't liverpool. Finishing fourth once in three years and busting out in groups isn't considered a success. The goal is to be the best in the world.
Its also clear there is more rebuilding to be done for Man Utd to be the best once again, which is exactly what he was saying in the interview.


how daft are you exactly?
we just got done talking about how man city spent more.
Ac milan just spent 170M. PSG dropped 200m on one player AND acquired mbappe and a couple other guys.


Utd spent over £500m in the last few years and they still have a team to rebuild?

Daft indeed.
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Dec 27 2017 06:41am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 27 2017 12:33pm)
we are turning a corner and now have a very good manager. going back to that would be dumb.



this is what im talking about. im not concerned with impressing or entertaining rival fans by doing stupid things.
Id much rather he manage intelligently. playing recklessly in that game would have been retarded, especially without pogba. He recognizes the situations and adjusts accordingly.
Nothing pathetic about a close 1-2 loss to a team on an incredible run.

It wasnt even a case of heavy bus parking. There were some opportunities and some open play. City just did a great job of pressuring and stopping us from maintaining possession and scored a clunky winner.


Ofcourse he still had a team to rebuild. We aren't liverpool. Finishing fourth once in three years and busting out in groups isn't considered a success. The goal is to be the best in the world.
Its also clear there is more rebuilding to be done for Man Utd to be the best once again, which is exactly what he was saying in the interview.


how daft are you exactly?
we just got done talking about how man city spent more.
Ac milan just spent 170M. PSG dropped 200m on one player AND acquired mbappe and a couple other guys.


Mourinho really isn't a good coach when he actually has a world class team..
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Dec 27 2017 06:43am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 27 2017 09:43am)
we have the cucks saying its a disgrace, but is he wrong? no.
rebuilding a struggling team by spending less than other major clubs and being expected to win the title within two years is a tough task.

Meanwhile we're on pace for our best finish since SAF and have returned to the champions league.

but hey they hit a rough patch so he must be bad.


Nobody is saying he should be winning the title. People are saying after 2 years and hundreds of millions of pounds he should be comfortably beating teams like leicester and Burnley.
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Dec 27 2017 06:47am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ Dec 27 2017 07:43am)
Nobody is saying he should be winning the title. People are saying after 2 years and hundreds of millions of pounds he should be comfortably beating teams like leicester and Burnley.


There isnt any team that consistently beats everyone in the premier league. Sometimes there are bad games. Some times there are rough patches. Shit happens.
Sometimes people miss easy shots, your CB pulls his groin, and a last minute shot goes in over him...

meanwhile we are in second, because we have been winning a lot.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 27 2017 06:49am
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Dec 27 2017 06:52am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 27 Dec 2017 13:47)
There isnt any team that consistently beats everyone in the premier league. Sometimes there are bad games. Some times there are rough patches. Shit happens.
Sometimes people miss easy shots, your CB pulls his groin, and a last minute shot goes in over him...

meanwhile we are in second.


manchester city

face it, united right now is just a rich west brom
and if you want to fix that you should bring in a coach with an actual long term philosophy instead of this lunatic mourinho

he will be gone soon enough anyway, cant be too long until he suffers another complete meltdown
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Dec 27 2017 07:21am
Quote (ampoo @ Dec 27 2017 01:52pm)
manchester city

face it, united right now is just a rich west brom
and if you want to fix that you should bring in a coach with an actual long term philosophy instead of this lunatic mourinho

he will be gone soon enough anyway, cant be too long until he suffers another complete meltdown


van gaal to make a return? :lol:
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