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Oct 21 2014 06:57am
Quote (B4al @ Oct 21 2014 02:47pm)
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Clueless simpleton.


Pele and Zidane still better than Messi. :lol:

He is a fanatic, the world are more than 7.000 milion ppl, if 3 or 4 people doesn't agree, it's not our problem obvsly.

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Pele and Zidane still better than Messi. :lol:

He is a fanatic, the world are more than 7.000 milion ppl, if 3 or 4 people doesn't agree, it's not our problem obvsly.


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Quote (Catalunya @ Oct 21 2014 02:57pm)
Pele and Zidane still better than Messi. :lol:

He is a fanatic, the world are more than 7.000 milion ppl, if 3 or 4 people doesn't agree, it's not our problem obvsly.



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Indeed. 7 billion (minus xx million barcelona fans) all know that Zidane & Pele are vastly superior to Messi.
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Oct 21 2014 07:03am
Quote (B4al @ Oct 21 2014 02:47pm)
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Clueless simpleton.


I hope you're smart enough to realize which Ronaldo I meant. and yes, check the castrol index if you were wondering.
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Oct 21 2014 07:48am
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I hope you're smart enough to realize which Ronaldo I meant. and yes, check the castrol index if you were wondering.


Castrol index is flawed. I giggle when i think shitloads of stupid people used it to prove messi was trash :rofl:

And you forgot the main reason Barcelona won all those trophies was messi's excellent form.

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Oct 21 2014 09:07am
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Castrol index is flawed. I giggle when i think shitloads of stupid people used it to prove messi was trash :rofl:

And you forgot the main reason Barcelona won all those trophies was messi's excellent form.


Or was it Xavi's?
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Or was it Xavi's?



Or was it messi-Xavi and iniesta?
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Or was it Xavi's?


While xavi was in great form, yes, think messi had more assists so he was more of a creative force than xavi.
Plus the goals messi scored via individual skill dribbling a whole team, which were a freaking lot.
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Castrol index is flawed. I giggle when i think shitloads of stupid people used it to prove messi was trash :rofl:

And you forgot the main reason Barcelona won all those trophies was messi's excellent form.


Those trophies were thanks to the chemistry of pretty much every single Barcelona player, especially Xavi, Iniesta and yes, Messi.

Put Messi in a mid table team and watch the team remain mid-table.


Castrol Index is the most accurate top 10 best performer list of the WC there is out there. It correctly placed Kroos and Robben as #1 and #2 and Messi far from the top 10 (as well as being behind Rojo and Mascherano) .

That's accuracy Patek Philippe would be jealous of.

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Oct 21 2014 09:33am
Pele>>Maradona>Messi>Ronaldo>Cristiano

In my opinion you can't compare players from the 70's vs 90's+ imagining for example Messi playing in 1970 and saying he would be a God. Or Pele playing nowadays and saying he would suck completely.
I think the "best" way to do this is watching how was Pele/Maradona's performance compared to other players from the same time with the help of some numbers and analyzing how much better are Messi and Cristiano comparing to current players.

I dont know if you understand what I'm saying :D

PS: For me (and for several instituitions like IFFHS, FIFA, L'equipe, etc) , winning 3 WC, scoring over 1200 (including non official matches) and winning all this prizes are more than enough to be considered the nÂș 1 football player in the world...
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